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HuntFishGrill
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Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:19 pm Posts: 93 Location: Chattanooga, TN
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 Remote Steer for Dummies
So here's the deal, after 20 years of running swamps and living and breathing mud motors(like everyone here) I finally bought a boat. That inspired me to dig deeper about which motor came out on top. It was tough to get good feedback here, but I got it in the end. The Mudbuddys were a known commodity to me, and the hard study was on the PD and GTR. In the end the GTR just wasn't for me. After a few test drives, let's just say I wasn't won over a MB by the GTR, price being equal. The PD however has just jumped out so far ahead that I simply couldn't ignore it. Anyway, enough of that, I made up my mind is the point. At lunch today it just suddenly occurred to me that center console controls is absolutely an option. I used to think that remote controls were for the fancy high-dollar rigs and didn't really have a place on a blue collar rig. I have no facts to back it up, but it seems like for the nasty stuff, you'd rather have direct grip on the tiller handle to muscle out. Is that about right? For a minimal cost difference, I could have a center console steering wheel rig and I want someone to tell me why I would or wouldn't do that. I hunt ducks and fish during the summer (probably 35-50 days/year) and somehow manage to find the gnarliest places to get out of in the process.
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:04 pm |
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latravcha
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:26 am Posts: 1173
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 Re: Remote Steer for Dummies
tiller handels are much more maneuverable and i hunt the woods more than anything else so I would not go with anything else One pluss thay I do see with the remote steering is that when you hit a log with a tiller and are not ready it feels like someone is trying to rip your arm off.
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:18 pm |
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quackconsumer
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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 Re: Remote Steer for Dummies
Tiller handle gives you much better control and you can get places wit a tiller dat you can't get wit remote steer. How ever if you gotta make long runs like I do then remote steer is sumthin dat you will want.
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:22 pm |
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HuntFishGrill
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:19 pm Posts: 93 Location: Chattanooga, TN
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 Re: Remote Steer for Dummies
interesting.... It just seems like when it's rambo time, you'd want to be horsing that motor around by the tiller and wouldn't be able to do that with remote setup. but dang the console looks so awesome.
_________________ The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. 1748 Geaux Custom Skiff
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:25 pm |
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jpc014
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Joined: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:17 pm Posts: 785 Location: Meraux, LA
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 Re: Remote Steer for Dummies
ok im gonna just come out and say that is bullshit because i have a CC and always will and i do what everyone else does. I can go the same places that tillers can. i have to same turning ability, etc... my steering turns my boat in tight areas and maneuvers the same. i've gone through timber, grass, mud, etc..... never with a prob. my rig is 3 years old with a 32 and runs with em in all the places.
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:00 pm |
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hotdognjo
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Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:04 am Posts: 480 Location: Laplace, LA
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 Re: Remote Steer for Dummies
Luvs his cc, with the 13 mile trip one way to the camp and the 5 mile trip from there to the blind, it is a must have for me.
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:53 pm |
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mogumbo
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Joined: Thu May 07, 2009 10:44 am Posts: 214 Location: Oklahoma
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 Re: Remote Steer for Dummies
I have a side console rig and have no problems getting where I need to go. Get a spinner knob for the steering wheel and it will help a bunch. Two things to think about however: Without hydraulic steering I've heard they can be a PITA to turn in thick stuff. Also you might want to think about the hydraulic reverse as well. It is by no means cheap to get this stuff but I would hate to be without 'em. If you can afford those two things by all means get 'em. Also imo it's easier to maneuver a tiller rig but unless you run ALOT of timber I don't think you will be very hindered by a console rig. Like these other guys said the long runs is where a console rig shines. It all boils down to what kind of places do you normally run.
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:06 pm |
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jpc014
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Joined: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:17 pm Posts: 785 Location: Meraux, LA
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 Re: Remote Steer for Dummies
the auto reverse is a must!!!!!!!!!!! i drove 2.5 yrs without it, it wasn't bad i just lifted the motor and spun the lower unit by hand about a min of your time. now that i have the auto-reverse; it's a matter of hitting a button and letting the hydro do the work in a few secs.
the new teleflex isnt bad either it turns pretty well in mud and thick stuff. the anti-feedback teleflex steering is what makes it hard to turn in mud, grass, etc...
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:12 pm |
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Skipr
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Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:48 pm Posts: 701 Location: Houma, LA
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 Re: Remote Steer for Dummies
I don't mean to hijack this thread and I know this was about a PD, but would it be a lot of trouble for a GTR to be converted from tiller to remote? I also have long runs to the blind and it will be further for fishing in the summer. Thanks.
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:14 pm |
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50fps
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:42 pm Posts: 2377 Location: West Coast Wisconsin
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 Re: Remote Steer for Dummies
Get ya a stick steer and a hot foot, leave the tiller handle on and have the best of both worlds.
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:23 pm |
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muddiejeep
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:24 pm Posts: 761 Location: New Orleans, LA.
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:35 pm |
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blaze
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:55 pm Posts: 340 Location: Outskirts of Chocolate City(Westwego)
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 Re: Remote Steer for Dummies
Its not a bad setup with a tiller but if you get a PD you better get the hyd reverse. If I had a PD I sure as hell wouldn't be reaching back to put it in reverse unless I really need it. Since JP got that hyd reverse I think he used it more in one trip than the 2 years he had the boat. If I get stuck that bad all I gotta do is take out one bolt and back to tiller. Now with that being said that chit ain't gonna happen unless I can't move the boat and I'm by myself lol. Skipr its not a hard job the longest part is running the wires. It can be done in a weekend.
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:49 pm |
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Skipr
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Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:48 pm Posts: 701 Location: Houma, LA
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 Re: Remote Steer for Dummies
Thanks Blaze, I'll consider doing it after hunting season. It will be a side console if I do go though with it. My boat is only 44" wide.
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:01 pm |
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quackconsumer
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:03 pm |
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HuntFishGrill
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Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:19 pm Posts: 93 Location: Chattanooga, TN
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 Re: Remote Steer for Dummies
so the only bad i'm hearing is maybe in shallow hydrilla and timber that the console doesn't shine? My boat's 48" wide is there enough room to squeeze around a center console to get back and forth?
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:33 pm |
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quackconsumer
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:53 pm |
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jpc014
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Joined: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:17 pm Posts: 785 Location: Meraux, LA
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Crews
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:07 pm Posts: 2260 Location: Lafayette
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 Re: Remote Steer for Dummies
I've seen JP run his rig on a tight trail in the timber. It went everywhere everyone else did. I've driven a couple CC ProDrive rigs and I really liked them. I enjoy having all the extra room in the boat without a console.
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JIMMY W
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 4534 Location: South Louisiana
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I am getting too damn old for the tiller!My new one will have a center console and I am going to install one of them Oh Shit spinner knobs on the steering wheel 
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Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:18 am |
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jpc014
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Joined: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:17 pm Posts: 785 Location: Meraux, LA
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Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:47 am |
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HuntFishGrill
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Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:19 pm Posts: 93 Location: Chattanooga, TN
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 Re: Remote Steer for Dummies
Ok thanks guys. I walk away with the impression that CC controls aren't really less capable, but really boils down to whether I want to give up the floor space. The extra cost really isn't even that much and not a determining factor (hell if i can scrape up $7k, what's $500 more?). The biggest plus over just plain being cool is the longer runs are made more comfortable. I can dig it.
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Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:53 am |
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EasTexDux88
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Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:08 pm Posts: 1069 Location: Longview Tx
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Id love to have a 2060 with dual 36's for bowfishin.
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Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:03 am |
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Crews
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:07 pm Posts: 2260 Location: Lafayette
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hydro reverse for another $1500 is almost a necessity though.....
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Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:41 am |
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jpc014
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Joined: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:17 pm Posts: 785 Location: Meraux, LA
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Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:46 am |
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Skipr
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Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:48 pm Posts: 701 Location: Houma, LA
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