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| Author: | fowllife08 [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | homemade surface... other one got deleted |
Building a 13 hp homemade sd, my other thread got deleted. Here it is, any suggestions, opinions. All welcome im new to this so tell me what ya think! Running a 32 tooth on top and 44 on bottom. The prop is a 10x8. And the motor is a 420 predator which says 13 but the other 420 is a 16 hp, dont understand that one! |
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| Author: | eljefe [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
you gonna run dual 13's...that would be pretty cool.... |
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| Author: | fowllife08 [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
That would be, but aint gonna happen chief, the frames being built to accept a 35 after huntin season. |
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| Author: | bjg [ Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:30 am ] |
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I want to see finshed pics. Thats alot of work and I think its pretty damn cool. |
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| Author: | fowllife08 [ Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
Thanks man, i made a little more progress but nobody seemed to be interested on here, ima prolly finish it up this weekend so ill take some more pics and post em |
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| Author: | dwight37 [ Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
Yeah post all ya got id like to see what ya did I assume you work at a machine shop!! |
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| Author: | Quackkillz [ Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
Lookin good |
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| Author: | fowllife08 [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
Thanks fellas! Got a little bit done today, almost ready to put motor on, just kinda mocked it up to see what she gonna look like. Tell me how shes lookin! |
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| Author: | fowllife08 [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
And a few more! |
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| Author: | Mag10 [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
Good start! You may need to beef up your 2 tabs for your steering, especially if you add a 35. How are you taking the prop thrust? Shoulder on the drive shaft? How are you going to tension the belt? You will learn a lot during the first build... Mag10 |
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| Author: | fowllife08 [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
Well the two angle irons will have a 1/4" plate on top. Where they mount the holes will be slotted then when tightened there will be a weld to keep it there. In tje bottom of yhe housing there are 2 bearings and 2 thrust busglhings with a seal on yhe backside then the cap keeps it all in there with sealent and a set screw |
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| Author: | fowllife08 [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
Got it mounted up and only 8mph. Working on that one, waitin on tach and new prop. |
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| Author: | odass [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
Take apic from side at back of boat. With the drive tube level. Might need a longer belt housing if drive angle is off.might be the reason for 8mph looks good tho. |
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| Author: | fowllife08 [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
Like this? The box is 2 1/8" from the bottom of my boat. The drive tube is square to the box. |
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| Author: | odass [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:48 am ] |
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Well it don't look to bad the flatter the angle to bottom the better. How high does water draft on boat. It might be the prop possibly.you want that belt housing as close to water when running as possible without dragging. |
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| Author: | odass [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
What size boat that on |
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| Author: | fowllife08 [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
1436 When the boat is sitting the box is about 1/4" out the water. But 8mph put the nose of my boat reaching for the sky which puts my box in the water about 1.5" |
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| Author: | cmcnabb [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
That looks like a fun project. Are you a welder? |
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| Author: | odass [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
Does it feel like the prop is slipping when you give it full throttle? Kinda goes the same same speed even after you back off to about half.?also how deep are you having to trim down to get a bite. |
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| Author: | MaXXis85 [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:09 pm ] |
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I don't know the exact specifics, but the farther back the housing is the Higher it needs to be because the water will push up after it exits the bottom of the boat. As long as you can plane the boat and the bototm of the housing is out of the water on plane you will be ok. Do not hold this to be 100% truth, but that is how one would think to set it up. |
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| Author: | fowllife08 [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
Yes I am a welder, in laffayette. Now that you say sumtin , yes bout slippin. I notice a little bit of change but not much from half throttle to full throttle. Maxxis, thanks for the advice I thought the further back the faster it wpuld plane, isnt that why people put jack plates? Thanks for the help guys |
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| Author: | odass [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
When my gator trax had wrong transom angle and height it slipped bad just like you ran about. Could be either wrong prop . Drive angle. Or drive length |
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| Author: | Walkers Bay Synd [ Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
Do you have any pics or dimensions your willing to share of the tail. This is one of the tidest home builds I've seen photos of. Being on the other side of the world the only short tail I've seen in the flesh was on a trailer going the other way at 100k and its only the second I know of in the country. Keep me posted on how it goes. Cheers |
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| Author: | fowllife08 [ Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
Odass I'm leaning more towards the wrong prop, hopefully. I have the 10x8 and waiting in drive shaft for it. Well see I gotta see how much tweaking I'm gonna have to do with the motor, possible mods? Idk. Everything seems to line up right maybe my drive is to long? |
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| Author: | odass [ Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
Get that tach hooked up man see what kinda rpms you got. If oow it hits the governor it's not a motor issue it's a gear ratio or prop not hooking up due to not enough prop or bad angle because of transom height. Good luck buddy |
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| Author: | surfking [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
hey man just found this thread i think u did a great job. i built a homemade one a few months ago so i know what you went through and just wanted to commend u on your hard work |
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| Author: | fowllife08 [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
Tach,10x8 prop, and flat black. And new throttle. Done!! |
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| Author: | swamprat26 [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
How fast is it now? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | fowllife08 [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
No clue didn't have time to drop it in the water. I will thursday. Let y'all know how it goes |
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| Author: | fowllife08 [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
Had a chance to put it in the water. No speeds because about half way through the test I popped the cord so I couldn't get it back started. I did however manage to get up pretty fast in about 5" of water. |
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| Author: | brasso [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
Is this your first build? |
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| Author: | fowllife08 [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:26 pm ] |
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Yeh |
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| Author: | Broke Okie [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:37 am ] |
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I have the same size boat, 6.5 HP predator, 9x8 prop. I am getting 16 MPH in deep, open water and 18 in shallow water. Will post some pics tomorrow. |
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| Author: | barrelburner [ Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
Same for me gents 14x36 riveted jon, 6.5hp harbor freight greyhound, 9x8 hill marine prop. Motor slightly modded getting about 15mph deep water with me and 70lb lab. 1.63:1 gearing. Also, with over a 500lb load it drops to about 10 or 11 mph but will still plane. Good enouph for me   All I can say is build away, I have great respect for you all because I know what these home builds entail just to get a finished product that is usable and halfway reliable. Merry Christmas to all |
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| Author: | fowllife08 [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
1.63:1 |
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| Author: | cr244 [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
fowllife08, build looks awesome!! great fab work |
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| Author: | fowllife08 [ Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: homemade surface... other one got deleted |
Thanks I built this last year and ended up selling it to a guy to crawfish with, he added a clutch and still runnin it. He put it on a 18' skiff and said it done what he needed. Im in the middle of trying to decide if I wanna build a 23 right now Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2 |
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| Author: | gator22 [ Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:26 am ] |
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nice build bro. looks good |
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| Author: | fowllife08 [ Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:21 am ] |
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