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benelli08
MMT F.E.
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:42 pm Posts: 763
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 A lil help please
Boat is not performing like it should be with no load I have a stage 2 by Calen. The motor pushes hard no dout about that. it's on a 18x48 with 3/16 bottom with 1/8 sides with catwalk and a 6 ft deck with a 14 gal alunimum tank up front can't seem to get it over 30 what I don't understand ran it last night with 4 people 2 batteries ice chest pulled out my gps running 29-30 and it does the same if I'm by my self with that load I was turning 4150 seemed to be the sweet spot with a load. But I can't figure out why it won't run by my self
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Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:06 am |
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LA Prop
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Joined: Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:31 pm Posts: 1008
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 Re: A lil help please
because its a mud motor not a race boat thats where it should run niglet
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JLACOUR
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4915 Location: Lake Jackson, TX
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 A lil help please
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benelli08
MMT F.E.
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:42 pm Posts: 763
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 Re: A lil help please
If La prop woukd ever build me a good prop. A loaded boat should not run the same as the a empty one
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Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:57 pm |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: A lil help please
Are you running a stock Gator-Tail prop?
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WhoDat88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 4:24 pm Posts: 2912 Location: Thibodaux, La
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 Re: A lil help please
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Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:20 pm |
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benelli08
MMT F.E.
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:42 pm Posts: 763
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 Re: A lil help please
It's a stock prop but it's modified the guy I got it from had a bead welded along the edge of each blade to make it last longer. And it was to much prop for him so I bought it off him cause we run a lot of sand it held up all season but yea it is a stock prop that i know of
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Zeek569
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Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:25 am Posts: 668 Location: Where the mud flats are
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 Re: A lil help please
Take that big ass tank out the front nick you might have to much weight in the front and when we goin ride agin?
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Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:15 pm |
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benelli08
MMT F.E.
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:42 pm Posts: 763
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 Re: A lil help please
Idk and I can't have a gas tank in my feet when I'm Driving. My old boat I had 2 6 gal tanks in the front. Ima just have to accept it it's a heavy boat I'm Sure a new prop would help but I'm not going buy a. New one and it's no diffrent
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Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:21 pm |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: A lil help please
I'd try a new prop.
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Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:21 pm |
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mud slinger 69
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:27 pm Posts: 1194 Location: Utah
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 Re: A lil help please
If those speeds are real dont know what the problem is not many boats can run that fast with 4 boys and gear.
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:57 am |
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50fps
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:42 pm Posts: 2377 Location: West Coast Wisconsin
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 Re: A lil help please
RPM-Speed ratio seems about right.
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:55 am |
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duckduckboom
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:33 pm Posts: 5603 Location: Corner of Hell an high water, La
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 Re: A lil help please
How many Rpms are you running by yourself ?
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:56 am |
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benelli08
MMT F.E.
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:42 pm Posts: 763
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 Re: A lil help please
That's what in saying the boat does awesome with a load just don't preform by my self. Rpm by my self are at like 4500 -4600 Rpm loaded Down is 4100-4150
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:04 am |
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benelli08
MMT F.E.
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:42 pm Posts: 763
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 Re: A lil help please
Just ask LaProp he knows how I am about speed I blame ma dad for that
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:11 am |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: A lil help please
I would try a new stock prop before anything. Your boat isnt hooked?
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:16 am |
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duckduckboom
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:33 pm Posts: 5603 Location: Corner of Hell an high water, La
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 Re: A lil help please
I would measure the prop before buying a new one. Worn props normally equal higher Rpms. I would check te throttle linkage. You may not get getting the full travel j would also talk to Calen and see what you out of the water Rpms should be at. But I would imagine you should be getting somewhere close to 4500
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:22 am |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: A lil help please
Im not saying its worn, just thinking the modifications to it may be keeping it from running fast.
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:24 am |
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benelli08
MMT F.E.
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:42 pm Posts: 763
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 Re: A lil help please
I just got it back from Calen wendesday he just went through it and fixed everything he said it's running perty good and that boat better not be hooked I just had that boat built with 3/16 bottom and extra braces on the bottom cause I Usto have a gator tail hull but in two years the area we run destroyed the bottom it was hooked in 3 spots I'll measure the prop when I get home
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:28 am |
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BayouBuster
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:33 am Posts: 1352 Location: Genoa AR
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 Re: A lil help please
If they welded a bead on the backside of the leading edge it will slow it down. That's why Hopkins props don't run as fast because they are so thick on the leading edge.
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:29 am |
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dfou
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:38 am Posts: 3986 Location: Pville, La
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 Re: A lil help please
I would agree its a prop issue if the speeds are the same at 4100 and 4500
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:39 am |
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benelli08
MMT F.E.
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:42 pm Posts: 763
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 Re: A lil help please
Good Info prop why ma boat ain't been running for the past 6-7 months since I put that prop on I just never knew cause I put the prop on right when I got the new boat
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:40 am |
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duckduckboom
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Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:33 pm Posts: 5603 Location: Corner of Hell an high water, La
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 Re: A lil help please
Shit I kissed that part about 4500. Get a new prop
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:41 am |
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benelli08
MMT F.E.
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:42 pm Posts: 763
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 Re: A lil help please
Guess I'll have to break down and buy another prop and just use that one for huntin season when gota run the bad stuff. I wish gator tail would let me test run the new 3 blade
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:42 am |
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dfou
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:38 am Posts: 3986 Location: Pville, La
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 Re: A lil help please
They will for 240$  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:42 am |
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benelli08
MMT F.E.
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:42 pm Posts: 763
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 Re: A lil help please
My buddy let me use his. He has one if the first ones that they used for testing I ran it this weekend I noticed that the prop is not pulling with the tips of the blades cause they still have that rough texture while the base of the prop is smooth but I put on my 2 blade with the same load and the 2 blade out preformed it better hole shot and top end idk if that prop is just a bad one or what but I wasant impressed with it and it's heavy I know It got another blade on it but still
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:46 am |
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benelli08
MMT F.E.
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:42 pm Posts: 763
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 Re: A lil help please
Idk why they can't let you test them they know me and they what 5 min from the lake I'll even let hyot come run it with me
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:48 am |
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50fps
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:42 pm Posts: 2377 Location: West Coast Wisconsin
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270Handiman
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:46 pm Posts: 2342 Location: Mandeville, LA
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 Re: A lil help please
Surface drive props are relatively cheap....just buy it.
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:58 am |
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benelli08
MMT F.E.
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:42 pm Posts: 763
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 Re: A lil help please
Free hat that's a good one I'm suprised they don't charge for the candy in the front office
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:03 am |
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BayouBuster
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:33 am Posts: 1352 Location: Genoa AR
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 Re: A lil help please
Take a grinder with a buffing pad to the backside of the one you have and make it a knife edge. If it fixes the problem you know its the prop if it doesn't then have a bead welded back on it like you have now.
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:29 am |
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benelli08
MMT F.E.
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:42 pm Posts: 763
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 Re: A lil help please
I'll take a pic of it when I get home today
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:50 am |
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benelli08
MMT F.E.
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:42 pm Posts: 763
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 Re: A lil help please
This is the prop
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:40 pm |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: A lil help please
You dont know anyone with a stock gator-tail prop in good condition?
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:32 pm |
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benelli08
MMT F.E.
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:42 pm Posts: 763
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 Re: A lil help please
Brand new no we all run the same area and mines the one with the Least wear. And it had about a 3/8 thick bead along the whole thing you can tell it wore our more on the sides than the tips
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:39 pm |
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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: A lil help please
I think a stock prop will bump you up to around 32 maybe 33 mph deep water.
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:54 pm |
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benelli08
MMT F.E.
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:42 pm Posts: 763
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 Re: A lil help please
Guess I'll just have to buy one and see so y'all think the 2 blade reigns over the 3 blade everybody got different opinions
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:02 pm |
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BayouBuster
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:33 am Posts: 1352 Location: Genoa AR
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 Re: A lil help please
Looks like they welded up the front side too. Buff that weld down and see what happens. I like the 3 blade I bought but I haven't ran it enough to know if I'll like it in the thick grass. I have a feeling ill run my 3 blade for fishing and 2 blade for frogging.
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:42 pm |
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benelli08
MMT F.E.
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:42 pm Posts: 763
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 Re: A lil help please
I may just keep the prop like it is cause it's really tough that's a whole season of running sand and stumps and it still does decent keep it for the tough stuff and get a 3 blade for like you said cursing and fishing
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THE TANK
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:34 pm Posts: 1080 Location: Coteau Homles, La
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 Re: A lil help please
Nick 4 guys running that speed is good man! It runs loaded, and that's all you can ask for, but you still can't beat THE TANK! You try, I got to fine you that. I'm fixing to build be a new 18X46 like you had and we going to hook em up!
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