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| Author: | dog tired [ Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | 36 Prodrive electric winch |
Stock 36 PD with the electric winch for trim. Does this pic look about right for as high as it should go? Had to crimp the wire using u bolts and this is as high as I could get it. Looks weird to me, am I off? |
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| Author: | brycecheramie [ Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
No! It should go much higher! Need to upgrade to the hydro trim! Worth every penny |
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| Author: | dixieducker [ Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
No! It should trim all the way up to where the chain touches the hook. |
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| Author: | dog tired [ Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
Thanks, like I said first time mm owner. Took it out for the first time today (baby's first mm ride) and its pretty obvious I need a new trim management system. My old winch lets out a little line under load so I had to keep pullin it back in. Wtf. Already contacted my local prodrive dealer for a new hydraulic trim. What should I expect price wise? |
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| Author: | brycecheramie [ Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
| Author: | JLACOUR [ Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
$728 @ and well worth it |
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| Author: | med [ Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
150$ winch and you're good to go |
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| Author: | dog tired [ Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
Med, I'd love to use the cheapest method-if it works. $150 where? How? The hydro seems good but saving 400 bones sounds good too. It's the crimping that's pretty tough for me. |
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| Author: | cb5331 [ Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
Use synthetic cable instead of steel. |
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| Author: | dead animal [ Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
i been having the winch trim for years. i usually get a year or so out of a winch, but i use the boat alot. first thing i tell anybody who has the winch trim is to throw away the steel cable and go buy 10' of 1/4'' synthetic rope at the hardware store. it will last alot longer and is easy on the hands. i been ising the same 7' or so peice of 5/16'' synthetic rope on the the last 3 or 4 winches. it's tough. anyway, i use the 3000# champion winch. it's like 100$. they came from prodrive with the 2000# superwinch, which will work fine too. for the winch to fit on mine, it has to be the style that has the small round knob on the side of the winch, the newer style winches with the big lever or big knob on the side don't fit unless u modify the mount. IN OTHER WORDS, GET ONE THAT LOOKS LIKE THE ONE YOU HAVE ON THERE NOW. if u call prodrive they will tell u which one to get. I been sayin for years that i was gonna switch to the hyd trim, but i can't let that 500$ go. lol i can't tell from the pic what type of monkeyshine u got going on, but u should still have another several inches of up trim to go from there. 1. run synthetic rope from winch through big hole and over roller bar. 2.take end of synthetic rope and pass back through little hole (under big hole) and tie it in a knot. 3. u are done.. good luck and postup when u get it fixed!! |
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| Author: | med [ Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
This is the winch I have. Can't remember where I got it but you can Google it. It was about the only winch I could find with a true mechanical brake. I initially kept all the line on the spool but it would bleed out just enough to be annoying while running. Cut about half the cable off and its solid now and stays put. I try to hook the chain when its parked just to keep the stress of the weight off the winch. Also put my control on my grab bar and really happy with my cheap setup. Might not be as great as the hydro but its cost efficient and beats the shit out of manual trim. I unbolted my winch to get the wire crimped and bolted it back up. Hope this helps ya maybe. |
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| Author: | dog tired [ Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
dead animal - i'll get picks up asap...any idea what strength synth line? i imagine most are pretty stong but dont know if theres something specific to look for other than thickness. med - i found it online, thanks for your pictures. if my winch continues to spool out line when stopped after the synth line conversion, guess i'll be going to the atv model right away. whole nother topic sort of, but i dont have a grab bar to mount to....where should i start? |
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| Author: | duckduckboom [ Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
The reason you can't trim higher is because your cable clamp is between your roller and the transom plate. It needs to go around the roller and through the hole beneath were it comes out. You can see what I am talking about in meds last pic. |
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| Author: | dog tired [ Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
well i guess some people have to be spoonfed...thanks for the simple man version duckduckboom. i knew that the clamps were in the way but couldnt figure a way to get them out of the way. will take a look when i get home today. when my which spools out about two inches of wire after i let off the switch, is it possible that its because i rigged it wrong or is the winch going bad? |
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| Author: | duckduckboom [ Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
Sounds like the winch. |
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| Author: | dog tired [ Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
Ok, got the cable through the bottom hole. Didn't have the space or time to pull the winch off to get the double wrap, but now it's "crimped" in the bottom hole. Take a look at how high the motor rides at full up trim. Big difference. Thanks for talking me through it. |
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| Author: | duckduckboom [ Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
yup that what its supposed to look like |
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| Author: | dead animal [ Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
i was told the 1/4'' synthetic rope had a 6000# rating. i have used it and it works. |
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| Author: | JLACOUR [ Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
There ya go! |
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| Author: | OwenDickeson [ Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
I like the winch setup, you are able to get a real high angle in reverse if you want to. |
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| Author: | dog tired [ Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
dead animal, i'm seeing the atv winch lines online here rated for various wieghts up to 7500#....only issue is that theyre all $100+ and 50ft...any suggestions where i can get half that length and not pay as much? |
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| Author: | dog tired [ Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
amsteelblue.com has various diameters and colors by the foot....only catch is youll pay double for it in shipping...$30 for 15ft 1/4" 7500# green line. guess i can try it. |
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| Author: | txmudcutter [ Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
| Author: | duckduckboom [ Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
Where are you located? |
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| Author: | dead animal [ Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
i get mine from the local hardware store. it's like $1.50 or so a foot. 10 foot is plenty. |
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| Author: | dog tired [ Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
Located in Va just south of dc by 60 miles or so. Couldn't find anything (online) at the local hardware stores (lowes, Home Depot) that was rated for at least what the winch can pull (2000#). After a quick evening hunt and run through some different areas, I can see my u bolt crimp is already coming well undone. I've already got the new wire cable but want to try a synthetic rope that's rated for the work. Even the people who know and use mud motors around here are giving me odd looks and doubting it but plenty of off roaders us it for much heavier applications. With claims like 85% lighter and 15% stronger than similarly sized wire ropes, I'll give it a shake. |
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| Author: | duckduckboom [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
The most important diffrence with Amsteel vs cable is cable Knicks itself. This creating a bad spot in the cable and that's where it breaks. Amsteel is very pliable and it does not knick. |
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| Author: | dead animal [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
http://www.amazon.com/Factory-Durable-S ... winch+rope like this, but u just need a 10' peice. or just get it longer and have a backup peice. or sell some to ur buddies and pay for itself. |
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| Author: | dog tired [ Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
looks similar to what I have in the mail on the way...just hope youre not pullin my leg. the synthetic line makes sense...stronger, cheap enough, and doesn't eat your hands. my concern is that the polymer ring inside the motor mount on the transom will eat the line since its been gouged consistently by the steel cable over time. thoughts? |
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| Author: | dog tired [ Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
Here it is with my little rope. |
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| Author: | OwenDickeson [ Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
Now you got it setup right! |
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| Author: | dead animal [ Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
that's what mine looks like. if it ever breaks, just pull off a foot or so and retie it in about a minute or so and it won't eat your hands up like the cable does. it should outlast a couple winches before it wears out. good luck. |
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| Author: | TonyGMcElroy [ Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
I'm bout to put a winch in mine if it don't sell soon. Have any of yall used mule tape? |
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| Author: | dog tired [ Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 36 Prodrive electric winch |
Never heard of it |
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