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Author:  chaseh [ Thu May 13, 2010 12:13 am ]
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how big of difference is there between .100 and .125 hulls? and i do n't wanna hear one of you asses say .025. and what's a 1644 godevil (.100), 25 lt with a few hours, and really nice trailer worth?

thanks in advance!

Author:  dead animal [ Thu May 13, 2010 6:03 am ]
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ummmm, maybe .25 ? :mrgreen:

Author:  LA Mudder [ Thu May 13, 2010 6:24 am ]
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how about twenty five thousandths ??
But really,, post some pics of what u got

Author:  POKER1 [ Thu May 13, 2010 11:36 am ]
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Author:  EasTexDux88 [ Thu May 13, 2010 11:39 am ]
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let me guess. your talkin bout the one in the classifieds?

Author:  quackconsumer [ Thu May 13, 2010 12:18 pm ]
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A beer can is about .005 thick so............
.100 = 20 beer cans thick
.125 = 25 beer cans thick

Author:  chaseh [ Thu May 13, 2010 12:52 pm ]
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no it's not the one in the classifieds, but it is probably a simlar rig. Don't have any photos. Went and looked at it yesterday though. Talked him down to 3800, comes with 100+ G&H dekes and a daisy cutter (needs a new insert) and a floating push pole, and he will deliver. Hull has a some minor (to me) dings that you can see all over the bottom, but nothing appears to be a major hook and all looks to expected to me.

And on the hull thickness, there has to be reason why they dont make .100's any more. But is that justification enough to not buy one with a great trailer and throw a SD on it later?

I know the obvious physical difference between the two sizes, but is .125 really gonna take a hit that much better?

Author:  EasTexDux88 [ Thu May 13, 2010 1:02 pm ]
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id say if it fits the bill for what your wantin to do, go ahead.

good luck ;)

Author:  Team Camo [ Thu May 13, 2010 1:07 pm ]
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As long as you're not runnin thru a mine field of stumps and debris, you should be fine. Mine's a '99 model, so it's .100, but i'm runnin mud and marsh, not swamp and stumps. Not a bad price with the xtras thrown in.

Author:  chaseh [ Thu May 13, 2010 1:16 pm ]
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I think I'll be posting the longtail in the classifieds tomorrow..... :mrgreen:


And I will be running some stumpy debris stricken areas. Can you get hooks repaired? Cuz I like the lay out of this hull; It's the split bench middle seat .

Author:  Team Camo [ Thu May 13, 2010 1:27 pm ]
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Most of the time ya can have it straightened out. Let me be the first to say congrats on the new rig. Now throw you a mb hd4000 on the back and wave bye to everybody as you pull away!! :mrgreen:

Author:  POKER1 [ Thu May 13, 2010 1:44 pm ]
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[quote="chaseh"]I think I'll be posting the longtail in the classifieds tomorrow..... :mrgreen:


And I will be running some stumpy debris stricken areas. Can you get hooks repaired? Cuz I like the lay out of this hull; It's the split bench middle seat .[/

When you get a hook from impacts it stretches the aluminum some. So it will dent easier the next time if you pop it back out. And you will beat it to hell in stump fields. You can fill them in with body filler and steelflex over that. Stumps play hell on 3/16" so that .100 is gonna take a beating if you run in them.

Author:  chaseh [ Thu May 13, 2010 3:46 pm ]
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Hey Camo, you have a hd4000 i can pick up for 3k???? :lol: i've been looking for a SD, and I'm thinking very heavily about that 27 PD up in Ft. Worth for 2500. I bet that'd push that hull a heck of a lot better than that LT!!

Author:  Capt Jeff Kraynik [ Thu May 13, 2010 6:27 pm ]
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When I bought my 1644 .100 hull per Coco it's (40) forty pounds.

Author:  keestan31 [ Thu May 13, 2010 6:58 pm ]
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Author:  50fps [ Thu May 13, 2010 7:05 pm ]
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Author:  Hizzoner [ Thu May 13, 2010 8:06 pm ]
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the Daisy Cutter not having an insert would be the deal killer for me

Author:  Team Camo [ Thu May 13, 2010 9:12 pm ]
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Author:  chaseh [ Sun May 16, 2010 9:26 am ]
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Camo, you sorry dog, thanks for rubbing that in my face. One heckofa deal!! I've found a few SD's in the 3k range, so as soon as i sell that LT maybe I'll get to run with you "big dogs"!!

Yup, it's official. I bought the boat!!! You old school longtailers must have one HELLUVA left hook, cuz I've been riding every day since and my shoulder is sore as all get out. But it sure is fun going through all the nasty stuff that I could never get to in an outboard! I believe that between my new found love for MM's and my previous affection for waterfowling, my life is close to good as can be. Thanks for spoiling it for my ol lady!

Author:  baileydog [ Tue May 18, 2010 5:35 am ]
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I have a .100 I wanted to save weight.

It does have some dents. I have put steelflex on it from day one.

I will have patch some places this summer. It fills in all the dents and dings. Slides over stuff much better. Just do not unhook the strap until it is in the water. The boat will slide off the trailer in a heartbeat

Author:  OwenDickeson [ Tue May 18, 2010 10:40 am ]
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Author:  baileydog [ Tue May 18, 2010 7:14 pm ]
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Well I would agree if you had a real big dog.

It saves 20% of the weight. .100 /.125 = .80 or 80% of the .125

I also have floatation in my boat. I would not have a commercial hull.

Author:  OwenDickeson [ Tue May 18, 2010 7:30 pm ]
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Author:  Crews [ Wed May 19, 2010 11:19 am ]
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Author:  Team Camo [ Wed May 19, 2010 1:03 pm ]
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I took mine to my buddy that owns a prop shop. He also does a bunch of fab work. He beat out 2 different hooks that were pretty bad and then stitched up the weak spots. I'd think any fab shop worth their salt could do the same.

Author:  caddobrook [ Wed May 19, 2010 1:20 pm ]
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How did he "stitch up the weak spots"? Just curious what can be done...

Pics? Inside? Beat out? 'Stitching"?

Author:  Team Camo [ Wed May 19, 2010 2:15 pm ]
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It was an old riveted boat, that i had beat to hell. Had a hook/dent in front and a big hook in back, right at the transom. Used wooden block and a bfh to beat out the dents, then welded up the spots where the old, brittle metal gave out and broke. When he was finished, it was as good, or better than new.

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