was looking for a motor for a boat size of 1754 or 1860... some say i need more hp some say the gtr35 would do fine or get you by pushing those boat sizes... but i like the reverse option with the gtr, up here in my area running in mud flats isnt that common, so im looking for this to be a all-around boat for me... So i think reverse is a huge benifit to me in the way i want to use the boat .....

your thoughts please !

a stock gtr would push my 17x54 a steady 28, three man light hunting load 23-24. This boat was made for that motor,not all motor/boat setups are the same.

You can add a carb and exhaust to a GTR and that will put you right there with a MB 45.

where would i get that stuff, what carb?, aWhat exhaust? would gator tail tell me that stuff ?

yeah i looked at a gator trax 1750 today.. then i though heck ill just get a 1754 gatortail boat and put the 35gtr on it and it shoudl duck hunt 4 and bowfish 4, fish 3.... didint really want to have to add mods to push what i wanted to but i guess ill have to ?

Just trying to figure out how to do a stick steer for the motor or just add a fan for the rear ?

would this really help the 35gtr do that much better over stock to push a 1754 boat with what i want to do !! what are the pros about buying this stuff??

what does it do to motor warranty ?

The majority of people on here are pushing those sized boats with 35 PD's or GTR's. It will do fine.

so what all would i need for the 35 gtr motor!!! to run that 1754 or 1860 size?

can you list it out, then i can go look them up on that website, is this what gator tail would recommend ?

Im sorry guys im just new to this style boat, thanks for answereing and helping, Just wanting to make sure that boat will perform with the weight im gonna put in it ?????????? right with a stock 35gtr?

I just bought a 1860 xtreme from gator tail with a gator tail 35 and by myself I run around 28. Now with 3 people and a load it slows down big time. I callled kyle at gator tail and he said get head work, and a exhaust. I just ordered the exhaust and hopefully by september I will have head work done. Then in the future I will put a performance carb. Hopefully I will be done with it by then.

If you are pushing 4 people all the time, it probably wouldn't hurt to get exhaust and a carb, sorry I didn't see that. But it will do it without, we hunt 3 people and 85 decoys in an 1854 PD boat and stock 36PD, and run mid 20's. 4 people is kinda crowded in that boat no matter what size motor you put on it, especially with a generator or a pile of decoys.

well i was looking at the 1754 or 1854.. guess i could always add that stuff later, most of the time it will be just me and the wife going fishing or me and my father duck hunting... then 3-4 bowfishing about 12-12 times a summer max then the rest of the time it would be 2-3 max for bowfishing..

so it should be fine then !!???

I out a post up about what options i was looking at for the boat will yall take a look at that too for me and add any opinions or thoughts, good or bad things, i may be adding to much weight in stuff...

thanks

People need to stop and think about it,these are small engine packages the more chit you put in the boat the slower it will go.Do you see many four cylinder toyotas pulling lowboy trailers with heavy equipment on them? Put a limit on how many passengers and how much gear. I hate to be a dick but there are a few friends of mine that do not hunt with me much because I will not load my boat down with 4-5 guys and gear.

If you need more then get two motors,mods are the devil and cost you money to start and more money in the end. The carb and exhaust options are a good way to pick up your performance without going deep.

If you have FAT friends your performance will drop,thats why I limit the number of passengers

You don't need all those boxes, and I agree with dog walker, it's not a yacht so you can't take the town with ya. Just a place to sit that doubles as a seat, and you'll be good. You will cuss a boat that is like walking through a storage unit, especially in the dark of the morning or when you are in a bind.

Get a 90hp Tammie and a hyd jackplate and sum balls and u will cmeout cheaper with way better performance.

so your saying put a 90 yamaha 4 stroke on the gatortail boat, if i did i think a 60 4 stoke would be plenty and it would be a tiller model ? can you do that with these boats

so which mud motor gets out of the mud and vegetation better ... I guess im asking which motor gets unstuck easier ??

prodrive or gtr

Sounds like you are a bit confused. Cal GT they can explain everything for you, and do all the mods you want. That size boat you are talking about will be fine with a 35 GT. Plenty of people on here run rigs like that. You can also call GT and go demo them.

Can you smell it? Troll !!!

i dont know what kind of loads you will be carryin or what kind of speeds you are wantin to achieve but i have an1846 boat with the stock 35 HP Gatortail and i can run right at 29- 30 by myself. with 2 ppl i run 28 or so. today i just got back from a crabbin trip and i had 4 ppl that weighed 120,160,190,250 pounds, 12 gallons of gas, 2 batteries and two 120 qt coolers full with crabs and ice and i still was able to run 22. it took me a lil longer than usual to jump on plane but with that much weight its expected. if you plan on carryin more weight then that to duck hunt, you need duals

this thread stresses me the f?ck out.

Specialty rigs perform well in special situations. Like DA said, a 90 yammahamma will push a VW beetle in your boat on plane. MM are designed to push a boat into places that outboards either can't go or will suffer extensive damage if they do go. They are not in use on cruise ships, off-shore rigs or wakeboarding boats. There's a reason for that. They are powered by 35/36 hp lawnmower engines. When these big blocks came out, there was a lot of talk about 6-7 man speeds and 1860 high side hulls with bass-boat like comforts and such. I see there has been a lot of scale back from that talk. For these hulls to last, they need to be thick which means heavy. They need to be properly braces which means heavy. Add to that and you impede the ability of the motor to do what it's supposed to do.
Beefy hull, strong bracing, 12 gallon gas tank. After that, you're just slowing the rig down.
I remember running my rig when I first bought it with three guys and two dogs. We flew all around the swamp. Put a fastgrass blind, decoys, shotguns, gear, more gear and stuff and that load and went hunting and it was all we could do to plane. You have to find the line where your boat perfoms and don't cross it.

Guys, a GTR with a carb/exhaust will not perform up to a 45MB, not quite sure what everyone is smoking but that is a fact, you gain alot of load carry ability with the mod'd motors so if your going to push a big boat with a big load and you need a MM either get duals or a Mod'd motor..Keep in mind Rpm's will be your enemy, keep'm around 4600 your safe/reliable (with Mod's).........I owned a 45MB that would push huge loads on a heavy Excel 1854...............the same motor on my Geaux 1848 would push 35mph tops and 28-30 with a hunting load, I now run a 36PD stock- the same hunting load around 22mph and top out at 29mph unloaded...............Oh and if your wondering about the switch from MB to PD- easy FPR.............

Stage I on any of them will run with a 45 all day long.

They only place the 45 is getting its power from is th edecked pistons and larger cam. A Stage I decks the heads instead of the pistons, leaves the cam stock, puts a better intake, carb and high flow exhaust. And not to start a war but HP to HP and on the same boat the Prodrives will always be alittle slower than the belts unless they change up the skeg drastically. Hell the last two engines I built for myself is telling me that the 31/32 is the way to go over the 35/36.

Im running a 18x50 Gator-tail extreme!! My motor has a cam, flat top pistons that are bored over a little and a small cam. The connectot rods or 120.. & BONE STOCK HEADS.. The motor only turns 4300 at best but i will turn 4000 grand with as much weight as the boat can handle.. I also have a marsh mello exaust and a bpr carb setup!! The other weekend i went bow fishing with

3 men
18 gallon gas
3500 watt gen
4 deep cycle gel top batt.
150 qt ice chest
120 qt icw chest with ice in both!!
all our gear..

Boat jumped on step and ran 27-28 easy after on step ran 3500 and stayed plained out.. The thing is i never trimmed it out to see what it would do.. Light the boat only runs 33 at best.. If you want a comparison their you go.. And the boat bow fished with 3 on the deck easy!!

i have a stock 1754 extreme gator tail hull with a 35gtr
me and a buddy fishing gear i run an average 27mph

went froggin the other night, and had me and 3 other people in the boat
wide open i ran 24mph

I was starting to think my gps was slow,looking at every body elses speeds,I never got a consistant speed of over 28 with a godevil,and still not with the gtr. My speeds are very much the same as Mr draggin's,we must both0 have slow gps. Reverse is nice but I'm still gonna keep the pushpole,too much sentimental value from the godevil days.

My 1860 Gtr center console with extended front deck and deck on back, trolling motor n 2 batteries runs 30 by myself with a Hoyt stage 1. Loaded down with 4 guys, gas, bows, ice chests, generator, 2 batteries, 11 lights and bars it will steady run 25. - just for reference.