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willtodo
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:51 pm Posts: 142 Location: EAST TX.
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 kohler 30 vs 27
why dont i see any one making a MM with the 30hp kohler its about 11 lb heaver than the 27 but 30lb or so lighter than the 35 van.
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willett
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:22 am Posts: 1764 Location: Tyler, TX
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 Re: kohler 30
its only 3 horsepower...which is why PD discontinued the 32 not that much difference
However if you want a 30 hp Kohler all ya gotta do is buy the 27 and then order the 30 heads and your good to go
_________________ Pete Willett WC Custom Boats - Tyler, TX http://www.wccustomboats.com
WC Custom 2048 3/16 Bottom Center Console with 35 PD EFI GTR WC Custom 1840 Hybrid 3/16 Bottom with 37 EFI BOSS
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Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:52 pm |
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willtodo
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:51 pm Posts: 142 Location: EAST TX.
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 Re: kohler 30
I am stepping up from a 23 so it would 7hp instead of 4hp. and the weight would be a fair bit less.
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Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:16 pm |
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willtodo
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:51 pm Posts: 142 Location: EAST TX.
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 Re: kohler 30 vs 27
I talked to MB today and they said that the kohler 30 would bolt up to the mini. I am runnin a 15 /48 so the 35van is going to be on the big side of what i need .The 27 would probably be fine but the 30 would be right in the mid. I have herd that the 30 did well in some test runns but MB went with the 27 just to keep things simple , and i also herd that there was some problems with the motor and thats why they droped the idea. Input please
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Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:56 pm |
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Gigafowl
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:19 pm Posts: 6441 Location: Trinity Bay - Texas
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 Re: kohler 30 vs 27
Will
My 27 gdsd pushes 28 to 29mph on a light 17x42
EVT and others have mods for the 27 if ya need more power
Just get the frame and brand you like
_________________ Eat - Sleep - Hunt ! ! !
"It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end."
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Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:05 pm |
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quackconsumer
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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 Re: kohler 30 vs 27
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Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:24 pm |
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Gigafowl
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:19 pm Posts: 6441 Location: Trinity Bay - Texas
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 Re: kohler 30 vs 27
Stock
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Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:27 pm |
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quackconsumer
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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 Re: kohler 30 vs 27
That is very impressive. I've seen that motor on similar size rigs and have yet to see in break 25-26. Not saying it isn't true just very impressive. I would not get another hull for that motor if I was you, sounds like you have it on the perfect matching boat with that performance.
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Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:32 pm |
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willtodo
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:51 pm Posts: 142 Location: EAST TX.
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 Re: kohler 30 vs 27
do you think the 30 kohler would be worth the extra 8 lbs and a few hundred bucks
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Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:36 pm |
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Gigafowl
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:19 pm Posts: 6441 Location: Trinity Bay - Texas
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 Re: kohler 30 vs 27
Yep - very light Weldbilt square chine .90 gauge 17x42
Only turned about 25mph on GDSD hull which is 200lbs heavier
The 27 is a great motor on a smaller lighter hull
_________________ Eat - Sleep - Hunt ! ! !
"It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end."
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Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:37 pm |
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Gigafowl
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:19 pm Posts: 6441 Location: Trinity Bay - Texas
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 Re: kohler 30 vs 27
Will
just saying the 27 is the standard - you could always mod it later into a 30 to 40 hp class if that is what you need
the 23 lacks the torque of that 27 in the low end
you might be happy as stock - can you get a test drive on your hull ?
_________________ Eat - Sleep - Hunt ! ! !
"It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end."
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Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:39 pm |
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willtodo
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:51 pm Posts: 142 Location: EAST TX.
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 Re: kohler 30 vs 27
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Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:21 pm |
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Gigafowl
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:19 pm Posts: 6441 Location: Trinity Bay - Texas
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 Re: kohler 30 vs 27
Your in East Texas - right
Somebody might be able to show you the MB
_________________ Eat - Sleep - Hunt ! ! !
"It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end."
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Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:33 pm |
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willtodo
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:51 pm Posts: 142 Location: EAST TX.
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 Re: kohler 30 vs 27
yes i am between Longview and Tyler
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Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:12 pm |
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50fps
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:42 pm Posts: 2377 Location: West Coast Wisconsin
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 Re: kohler 30 vs 27
Just do the 27.
The 30 is just different heads and intake/carb.
The 25/27/30 block can be modded quite extensively later to some unbelievable HP.
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Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:37 am |
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willtodo
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:51 pm Posts: 142 Location: EAST TX.
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 Re: kohler 30 vs 27
I talked with Mud Buddy today and they said that the only problem thay had out of the motor and the reason they went with the 27 kohler insted of the 30 kohler was a hesitation just as your gettin on it. I would think thats someting that could be ajusted out but surly they tried.
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