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duckkillah
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:08 am Posts: 100 Location: Upper East TX
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 oil cooler
Anybody gotta "spare" oil cooler for a 23 hp Briggs? I found a coupla new ones, but was hoping somebody has an old lawnmower engine cemetery I could scrounge one up at......
PM me and we'll figure somethin' out!
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GaugeTheDuckDog
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:55 pm Posts: 327
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 Re: oil cooler
Sent pm
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Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:44 pm |
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duckkillah
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:08 am Posts: 100 Location: Upper East TX
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 Re: oil cooler
I appreciate it, Josh!
I'll get back with you after this weekend.
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Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:06 pm |
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Glider
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:39 pm Posts: 160 Location: Fort Payne, AL
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 Re: oil cooler
Speaking of oil coolers. Has anyone added an automotive style oil/transmission cooler in front of the cooling fan? It seems like these modded engines don't have alot of oil in them for the rpms/heat they have to run. A larger cooler will add additional oil capacity. Cooler oil also helps the engine/piston/bearings run cooler.
I am running a oil coolant additive from:http://www.two2cool.com/product_p/06035.htm
I haven't checked with a temp sensor to see if it has any effect on temps but am using anyway.
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Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:18 am |
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muddiejeep
MMT F.E.
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:24 pm Posts: 761 Location: New Orleans, LA.
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 Re: oil cooler
a few guys are running aux coolers. maybe one of them will chime in.
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Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:23 am |
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SmokeEater829
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:48 pm Posts: 1830 Location: Belle Chasse, LA
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 Re: oil cooler
I'm running one on mine. It is a transmission cooler that came from Napa. Easy to install and for only $40 bucks, you gotta put one on. More oil can't hurt!
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Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:31 am |
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GaugeTheDuckDog
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:55 pm Posts: 327
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 Re: oil cooler
I run the one from napa part # 1-4818 from what I was told it will help cool by around 30 degrees. Everything is included in the kit for 40 buck anything to help with the break down, count me in.
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Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:44 am |
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Glider
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Joined: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:39 pm Posts: 160 Location: Fort Payne, AL
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 Re: oil cooler
Ok next question: Do you cover part of the coolers when running in below freezing temps so the oil can get to operating temp? Where do you guys mount yours?
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Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:03 am |
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GaugeTheDuckDog
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:55 pm Posts: 327
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 Re: oil cooler
I live in Texas never really see that kind of temp. but maybe someone else might know that answer. I mounted on top of my pd motor screen.
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Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:35 am |
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basinlover
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:24 pm Posts: 279 Location: DE Jeanerette, LA.
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 Re: oil cooler
I does work good I did a test on mine just to see, I added a oil sensor to the oil filter mount from (stage 6 about the size of a tiny tach) and with the single original oil cooler my temp went up to 225-230 and with just the aftermarket cooler the temp was about 210, oil starts to break down aroung 240 from what I have read( convincinal) synthetic a little higher, I am running stage 3 so temps will be higher than normal I ended up coming out of the original going to the after marker then back to the block and it stays about 195 now. 
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Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:19 am |
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basinlover
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:24 pm Posts: 279 Location: DE Jeanerette, LA.
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 Re: oil cooler
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Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:23 am |
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Mitschke
MMT F.E.
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:18 pm Posts: 971
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 Re: oil cooler
Marty, thanks for posting the link to your gadget thing. I have been meaning to ask you about that.
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Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:40 am |
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BODUKE_7
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:35 pm Posts: 230 Location: PATTERSON,LOUISIANA
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 Re: oil cooler
DAT TING IS FANCY I WONDER IF IT TAKES A DEGREE TO OPERATE 
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Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:11 am |
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Glider
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:39 pm Posts: 160 Location: Fort Payne, AL
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 Re: oil cooler
Thanks for the info basinlover. i am debating puttig the stock cooler on the fan cover or finding a larger than stock but not wider than the fan cover aftermarket cooler and adding it.
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Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:35 pm |
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indybill
MMT Addict
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:38 pm Posts: 581 Location: HOUSTON
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 Re: oil cooler
pictures please ?
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Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:37 pm |
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basinlover
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:24 pm Posts: 279 Location: DE Jeanerette, LA.
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 Re: oil cooler
also when you are ready to mount it you can just screw it into the side of the block where the plug is or you can remove your oil filter mount by removeing the 1" nut under the oil filter the drill and hole about a little less than 1/4" parrell (on the underside of the adapter) with the oil outlet port (NOT ALL THE WAY THROUGH) which is the front hole on a prodrive then drill a hole 90 degrees to that hole from the outside going to that hole ,(this is the side of the adapter)and tapping it 1/8 NPT this way the oil coming from the block passes over the sensor as it goes out to the oil cooler, sounds complecated but once you remove the oil filter adapter and look at the back side of it you will see what I am talking about. Then all you do is put the adapter back on it has a oring so there is no gasket to worry about. the temperture sensor also needs 12 vdc to run so yoall have to get from the switch by the handle I just tied it to the hot wire that goes to the shutdown solinod on the carb originally. I was able also to modify the multimeter from stage 6 which has overheat and overrev which would shutdown the motor but I am haveing trouble getting it to read the proper RPMS so it is shuting down the engine prematurly but the overheat works. 
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Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:31 pm |
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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 Re: oil cooler
I see it requires a resistor spark plug for high rev engines, but I didn't see where it specifies what revs are considered high. ? Marty are you running these plugs?
It looks sweet! I like what I'm seeing if it'll work on the briggs.
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Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:54 pm |
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basinhunter
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:22 pm Posts: 1642 Location: Morgan City, LA
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 Re: oil cooler
I'm going to put me one of them larger oil coolers on my motor. I'm a little concered about oil temp when runnin these modded motors hard cuttin trails at hours at a time.
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Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:19 pm |
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basinlover
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:24 pm Posts: 279 Location: DE Jeanerette, LA.
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 Re: oil cooler
I will take some pictures tomorrow right now I am just running the temp meter and not the multimeter cause the multimeter displays rpms as a default so you have to press the button 6 times on the multimeter to get to the temperture. The temperture meter only shows temp and works great and it does do Fariheight, it also lights up at night so you can see it in the dark. Also it already comes with the temperture prob and ant to bad for 50 bucks.
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Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:53 pm |
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:00 pm |
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BradS
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:23 am Posts: 4514 Location: Lafayette, La
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 Re: oil cooler
Or tryin to get out of coffee grounds I been thinkin about it too even though Im stock. I mean better cooling cant hurt right
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Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:34 pm |
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coondik
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It doesn't matter whether u'r stock or not. Increased oil capacity + cooler oil temps = longer engine life & more X in between changes. I'm runnin' a 71/2 x 12 on my new engine! I would also suggest an oil PSI gauge 
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Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:42 pm |
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BradS
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:23 am Posts: 4514 Location: Lafayette, La
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Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:45 pm |
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coondik
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Snuggles u lost my number? 
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Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:49 pm |
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BradS
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:23 am Posts: 4514 Location: Lafayette, La
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 Re: oil cooler
Nope but I asked on here cause maybe I wasent the only one that didnt know LOL
plus its after 8pm and its not an emergency LOL
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Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:34 pm |
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:42 pm |
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POKER1
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 6243 Location: Bossier City
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 Re: oil cooler
How much psi these things running?
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Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:52 am |
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50fps
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:42 pm Posts: 2377 Location: West Coast Wisconsin
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Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:22 am |
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basinlover
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:24 pm Posts: 279 Location: DE Jeanerette, LA.
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 Re: oil cooler
You can get a bottom mount 1/8 npt small 0-60 psi gausge and it works great on a prodrive you just screw it in the block where the plug is and you can see it clearlly from the driving position, thats why I drilled the adapter for the temp meter cause I used this port up, also you should get a fluid filled gauge cause of the vibration I got mine from a the gauge house in Broussard LA. think it was about 25 bucks. Don't get the back mount you can't see it unless you put a 90 on it it then it sticks out to far. and the psi stays about 50 psi.
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Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:13 am |
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b_coonass
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:08 pm Posts: 1229 Location: morgan city, louisiana
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