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kcudslayer
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Joined: Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:02 pm Posts: 231
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 Anyone Use Epoxy Paint???
Well i talked to a sherwinn williams guy today about the KEM 400 paint and he told me that it would work but he recommended i use their Epoxy paint because it would be stronger, and take more of a beating. He also said i wouldn't need to prime i could just etch with alumabrite and spray the paint on. Has anyone used this or know about it? if so please speak up, i would like some advice
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Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:30 am |
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North LA Hunter
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Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:39 pm Posts: 6976 Location: West Monroe, LA
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 Anyone Use Epoxy Paint???
I use epoxy primer and epoxy paint. And I spray a etch primer on it. I've heard you can just spray etch primer and paint it but I take an extra step just for the hell of it.
If in not mistaken Sherwin Williams makes a wash primer that you can use for a etch primer.
Spend the money on good paint so you won't have to bitch about a crappy paint job and end up repainting it.
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Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:45 am |
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krogers
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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:24 am Posts: 1958 Location: Bristol, FL
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 Re: Anyone Use Epoxy Paint???
Brandon is that paint holding up good? I don't know what Gatortail uses but it doesn't take much to scratch it off.
If I keep my boat I'm thinking of repainting among other things.
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Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:49 am |
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North LA Hunter
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Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:39 pm Posts: 6976 Location: West Monroe, LA
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 Re: Anyone Use Epoxy Paint???
Seems to be holding up fine. Don't get me wrong, it will scratch but takes a little bit.
I used a DuPont knock off on the base? Then Kem 400 on for the black in the Nat gear.
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Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:53 am |
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BayouBuster
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Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:33 am Posts: 1352 Location: Genoa AR
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 Re: Anyone Use Epoxy Paint???
Kem 400 is good. But if you want to use a better paint go with imron, stuff is hard and lasts.
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Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:52 pm |
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kcudslayer
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Joined: Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:02 pm Posts: 231
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 Re: Anyone Use Epoxy Paint???
the guy mentioned the wash primer, but he's obviously never painted a boat. idk what route to go because i have an imron dealer here too. I wonder if Nason etch primer and that epoxy paint from sherwinn would do
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Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:29 pm |
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Frog
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Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:49 am Posts: 3260
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Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:25 pm |
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willett
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:22 am Posts: 1764 Location: Tyler, TX
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 Re: Anyone Use Epoxy Paint???
Wash primer isn't an etching primer but it's next best thing.
Gator tail sands their boats with orbital sander, washes them with aluma brite (or similar) which does nearly what an etching primer does, sprays wash primer, then paint with Kem 400 or other paint that is similar to Kem 400.
I do the same except don't wash with aluma brite. I sand boat completely with orbital sander 60 grit, wipe good and clean with acetone, spray wash primer and then paint with Kem 400.
The wash primer acts almost like an adhesive and instructions say optimum top coat time is 30-60 minutes after priming and HAS to be painted over within 4 hours or you lose the adhesion of the primer.
It's like you spray the primer then turn right around and paint and the paint bonds with the primer to adhere really well to the metal.
If not mixed right the wash primer will spray out of gun like spray adhesive.
At one time I used some epoxy paint over wash primer and worked well but the epoxy tends to get chalky real quick when the boat sits in the water or sits in the weather.
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Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:12 am |
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kcudslayer
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 Re: Anyone Use Epoxy Paint???
thanks pete, the guy told me the epoxy paint faded fast or lost its shine, i think I'm leaning towards the imron or kem400 pete wat do u pay for the kem400? my paint guy told me $150 a gallon i thought he was crazy
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Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:51 pm |
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willett
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:22 am Posts: 1764 Location: Tyler, TX
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 Re: Anyone Use Epoxy Paint???
Lol $150 a gallon is crazy!
$36-60 per gallon depending on how much I buy at a time.
Most SW stores, even Chemical Coatings/Product Finish stores can't do a Flat or even a semi-gloss color.
In long run its going to be easier for you to Call Sherwin Williams in Little Rock. Going to have to pay a little for shipping but they have everything you need and usually can fill order and ship same day
(501) 375-7203
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Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:09 pm |
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kcudslayer
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 Re: Anyone Use Epoxy Paint???
thats what i thought, can the place in little rock add the flattener?
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Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:17 pm |
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willett
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:22 am Posts: 1764 Location: Tyler, TX
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 Re: Anyone Use Epoxy Paint???
They mix straight flat paint.
The flattener makes the paint become chalky and less durable
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Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:20 pm |
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kcudslayer
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 Re: Anyone Use Epoxy Paint???
excellent
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Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:42 pm |
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kcudslayer
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 Re: Anyone Use Epoxy Paint???
will a gallon do the whole boat ? I'm gator gliding the bottom
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Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:42 pm |
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willett
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 Re: Anyone Use Epoxy Paint???
What are you spraying with?
Are you putting down turf or something on deck and floor?
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Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:41 am |
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kcudslayer
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 Re: Anyone Use Epoxy Paint???
considering putting cheap turf down the sears stuff, i will be spraying with automotive paint gun not sure of the specs or details on it its my fathers and i know its not a cheap one
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Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:10 am |
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willett
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:22 am Posts: 1764 Location: Tyler, TX
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 Re: Anyone Use Epoxy Paint???
If it's a good gun then that will help a lot. Thin it down some (max is 15% so around 8%) and a gallon is usually plenty with doing some sort of floor and deck covering so you don't have to paint the floor and deck.
Otherwise if you do paint those areas then a gallon will be cutting it close.
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kcudslayer
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 Re: Anyone Use Epoxy Paint???
excellent, thanks pete
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