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nasty
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:36 am Posts: 1290
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 New build
Well this will be my first attempt at building a boat, Still getting my equipment together ATM, ordering my miller252 and 30a and 50" brake tomorrow, got the tubing roller grinders ratchet straps come-alongs clamps ect ect everything I need to get started, big thanks to Dfou for helping me by pointing me in the right direction on a few things and allowing me to help him on a build of his. Much appreciated!
Boat specs 1pc 1/8 18x54 21" sides tapering to 19 at the transom. Performance crimps, 16" hunt deck with step side corners. Drivers box storage w/ small catch all box. Dual transom spud holes. 5' deck 2ft stow under w/ 4ft rod box extension which should be good for up to 8'6" rods. 4ft step up catch all box for extra storage.4" cat walks(including gunnel caps). 6 stringers 4cross braces flat bar bow w/ additional cross bracing. The three holes in the cat walks can be used for blind, tie downs or whatever, might be a little ambitious for a first build but go big or go home right... Tell me what y'all think!
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Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:38 pm |
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PhilD
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:24 pm Posts: 329 Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta Nothern Canada
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 Re: New build
I will have to watch this build, I am looking for a 18 or 19X54 boat and any designs that work well I will be incorporating into mine. Include lots of pics.
Thanks for sharing Phil
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Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:57 pm |
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fowllife08
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:25 pm Posts: 3676 Location: down in da flats, LA
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 Re: New build
Seems as if its our new years resolution! Ill be following your build as im about to statt an 1848. Good luck to ya bud!
_________________ 35 GTR chasin a BBC 1848
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Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:59 pm |
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cr244
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:43 am Posts: 1504 Location: Watoola, Alabama
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 Re: New build
looks good nasty and good luck
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Sun Dec 15, 2013 9:05 pm |
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nasty
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:36 am Posts: 1290
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 Re: New build
got the rig today 
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Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:28 pm |
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fowllife08
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:25 pm Posts: 3676 Location: down in da flats, LA
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 Re: New build
Now start puttin some weld down!!
_________________ 35 GTR chasin a BBC 1848
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Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:29 pm |
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nasty
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:36 am Posts: 1290
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 Re: New build
I would but the spool gun has a problem right out the box, trouble shooting ATM, gas coming from the handle instead of out the nozzle...
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Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:28 pm |
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nasty
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:36 am Posts: 1290
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 Re: New build
Rubber valve wasn't even installed, supplier replaced gun good to go now...
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:27 am |
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fowllife08
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:25 pm Posts: 3676 Location: down in da flats, LA
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 Re: New build
Lets see some beads.
_________________ 35 GTR chasin a BBC 1848
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:35 am |
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nasty
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:36 am Posts: 1290
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 Re: New build
I'll post some tonight 
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:36 am |
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North LA Hunter
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:39 pm Posts: 6976 Location: West Monroe, LA
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 Re: New build
Any reason you didn't go with a push pull alumapro nasty?
Sent from my beeper
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:44 am |
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fowllife08
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:25 pm Posts: 3676 Location: down in da flats, LA
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 Re: New build
_________________ 35 GTR chasin a BBC 1848
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:29 pm |
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dguidry
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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 Re: New build
Nasty, first thing you ought to do is lift the numbers off of a proven hull design. Don't try to reinvent the wheel, here. Then you insert those numbers into that hull design program I pm'd you, so you'll end up with a hull that looks and performs well. The technical term for the numbers is a "table of offsets". You can do this with a laser level and a ruler. It's hard to explain in words how to lift a table of offsets from a hull.
Alternatively, you can measure three or four cross member frames, the transom and stem from an existing hull and build on a strong-back upside down.
Otherwise, you'll have to rely on your eye for curving the gunnel, rake and bottom chine. That works fine for experienced boat builders, but there will be "oh shit" moments you will have to deal with if you are inexperienced.
_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:39 pm |
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dguidry
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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 Re: New build
Just noticed Dfou is helping you get started. Great idea!! He knows his stuff.
_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:43 pm |
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forever draggin
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:10 pm Posts: 6664 Location: in the marsh with a boat load full of dead hookers
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 Re: New build
Mfer need some attention bad
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:08 pm |
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nasty
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:36 am Posts: 1290
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:10 pm |
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nasty
MMT 1000 Club
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:11 pm |
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nasty
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:36 am Posts: 1290
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 Re: New build
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:12 pm |
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dguidry
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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 Re: New build
_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:15 pm |
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North LA Hunter
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:39 pm Posts: 6976 Location: West Monroe, LA
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:59 pm |
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nasty
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:36 am Posts: 1290
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 Re: New build
ran quite a few beads to get it dialed in, it's coming along. Any critiques or complaints or tips? Looks pretty uniform to me, penetrated well for sure.
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Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:04 pm |
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dixieducker
MMT F.E.
Joined: Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:40 pm Posts: 888 Location: mobile alabama
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 Re: New build
_________________ 1748 Cottonmouth Hybrid Custom with a 2015 35GTR 7 yr old Boykin Spaniel One Badazz wife that that hunts like a champ ROLL TIDE!!
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Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:12 pm |
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fowllife08
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:25 pm Posts: 3676 Location: down in da flats, LA
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 Re: New build
Looks good... maybe a lil hot??
_________________ 35 GTR chasin a BBC 1848
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Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:27 pm |
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txkingfisher
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:09 am Posts: 1121 Location: SETX
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 Re: New build
Bead looks good. Preheat the area where you will start welding. That's why your bead looks a little off spec at the start. Make sure you don't use a wire wheel that has been used on any metal other than aluminum. If you cut with a circular saw, use plenty of WD-40. Wire wheel all your weld areas beforehand and wipe down with acetone if you really wanna stack some uniform beads.
That's a badass machine and plenty overkill for what you will be doing. I used to have the same one, but ran a profax spool gun off it.
_________________ 13' Jefferson fiberglass skiff - 14 Copperhead
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Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:32 pm |
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nasty
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:36 am Posts: 1290
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Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:53 pm |
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txkingfisher
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:09 am Posts: 1121 Location: SETX
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 Re: New build
Oh yeah, don't slam on the trigger of the gun when you start a pass.... make sure to purge gas for a second (longer if you just hooked up to the bottle) to make sure you have good shield gas before you strike an arc. (You probably already know this)
_________________ 13' Jefferson fiberglass skiff - 14 Copperhead
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Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:16 pm |
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North LA Hunter
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:39 pm Posts: 6976 Location: West Monroe, LA
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Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:21 pm |
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dfou
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:38 am Posts: 3986 Location: Pville, La
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Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:02 pm |
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nasty
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:36 am Posts: 1290
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Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:10 pm |
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fowllife08
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:25 pm Posts: 3676 Location: down in da flats, LA
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 Re: New build
Any update? I keep junpin back to this to see if you started, i dont feel so bad 
_________________ 35 GTR chasin a BBC 1848
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Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:20 am |
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nasty
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:36 am Posts: 1290
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Not yet bruh! Metal won't be in for two weeks. Gotta get in bend, they're doing inventory, and also the holidays gottem all screwed up, all good though. Just been playing around with the machine trying preheating thick stuff to cut down on cold starting, working very well. Using a 1000* heat gun rather than oxy acetylene
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Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:58 am |
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banded-mallard
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4310
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 Re: New build
Beads look great. The gas on the spoolgun sould come on before the wire is fed, at least thats how my spoolgun is. The only thing I would watch out for, and this is just food for thought. When welding thin aluminum, its heat transfer is twice as much as steel. Thus welding thin aluminum will warp quick. You will need to bounce around to keep from building up to much heat in one area. I would make about a 4-5" weld, jump ahead aboput 2', then do again. By the time I got all the way around to the 1st weld, it was cool enough to touch. Then repeat until you have closed it in completely. Also with what the others said, need to push, not pull. What wire are you using 5356 or 4043. Also the wire size will help you keep the heat input down. I used .035 and didn't have any issues.
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Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:27 am |
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nasty
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:36 am Posts: 1290
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 New build
Yea I always push my trigger and let argon flow for a second before I arc up. Thanks for the tips  oh and 5356 .035 was suggested to me bc of the corrosion resistance and strength, so majority of what I'll be doing will be done with it.
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Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:31 pm |
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deltaduckmaster
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
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 Re: New build
You want really clean welds use 90/10 gas argon with helium.
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Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:27 pm |
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Capt. JJ
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:27 pm Posts: 252
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 Re: New build
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Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:18 am |
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nasty
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:36 am Posts: 1290
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 Re: New build
I've only ever used 100% argon anytime aluminum welding. never had to weld on anything thicker than 1/4" so adding helium would be uncharted territory for me personally.
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Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:00 pm |
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North LA Hunter
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:39 pm Posts: 6976 Location: West Monroe, LA
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Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:36 pm |
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Capt. JJ
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Joined: Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:27 pm Posts: 252
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Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:14 pm |
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nasty
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:36 am Posts: 1290
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 New build
let the build begin! Had a little hiccup earlier but with a little chat with Daniel believe i got it straight. worm drive hopped out the cut on a restart ended up cutting a little much out the tail end of my cut but, all swell now, I'll get picks of it tomm I got it fitted and released it to start putting down long. braces.
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fowllife08
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:25 pm Posts: 3676 Location: down in da flats, LA
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 Re: New build
How are you cuttin your material?
_________________ 35 GTR chasin a BBC 1848
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