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| Author: | The Hairy Coot [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Gator Twins on a Gator Trax? |
Thinking of putting two GatorTail 35's (w/rev) on the back of a Gator Trax 54x20 (huntdeck). Center Console, rear boxes, extended deck - aka heavy ass boat. Looks like the GT's weigh a good bit less than the PD's. I run shallow soft mud with a ton of stumps, so when I'm going thru slow-like, the skeg usually gets wedged up & stuck on a stump, and I was thinking duals could inch through that. Currently running a 45 mag MB HD sport w / Mikuni and that motor has trouble pushing the load - only getting about 26 mph with one guy. You guys think the two GT's would weigh too much for a 54" wide boat? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD |
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| Author: | OwenDickeson [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gator Twins on a Gator Trax? |
I think it will work, a guy used to run dual PD's on a 17x54 |
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| Author: | msm8281 [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gator Twins on a Gator Trax? |
Full throttle had duals on 20x60 gt boat and he said it was too much.. I think. Pm him to find out the whole story. |
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| Author: | OwenDickeson [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gator Twins on a Gator Trax? |
I think he was more concerned about draft, on a shallow, hard bottom. |
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| Author: | North LA Hunter [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:31 pm ] |
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2054 should be enough boat. If you think it's too much weight get someone that weighs however much a motor weighs to stand on the transom. Sent from my beeper |
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| Author: | missile [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gator Twins on a Gator Trax? |
I would think it would be to much weight and got to figure in spacing of the motors. I would call gator tail or gator trax. You are also going to want some extra bracing dual motors put a lot of stress on the transom when you think about two motors slamming up and down when hitting stuff. |
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| Author: | msm8281 [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gator Twins on a Gator Trax? |
| Author: | missile [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:35 pm ] |
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If they would fit that sucker should get up and roll with duals |
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| Author: | The Hairy Coot [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gator Twins on a Gator Trax? |
Yeah, 670 lbs (PD) versus 520 lbs (GT). Big difference in weight. 150 lbs Gator Trax said they put duals on that size boat all the time, it can be done no problem, just wanted y'all's opinion. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD |
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| Author: | Full Throttle [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:37 pm ] |
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| Author: | The Hairy Coot [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:40 pm ] |
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DP |
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| Author: | Full Throttle [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:43 pm ] |
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| Author: | Woodiebuster [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:48 pm ] |
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You just need to simplify down to a Longtail in the mud and bad stumps if your run isn't too far. |
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| Author: | OwenDickeson [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gator Twins on a Gator Trax? |
Well thats the dumbest thing ive read today. |
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| Author: | msm8281 [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:57 pm ] |
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| Author: | North LA Hunter [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:57 pm ] |
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| Author: | The Hairy Coot [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:05 pm ] |
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Well, in his defense, he's probably right. I'm the only dumbass in the camp with a SD. The LT's do much better in the stumps, just don't feel like fight'n a 36 HP LT! Ever driven one of those bastards in the stumps?? It's a Beast Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD |
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| Author: | Woodiebuster [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gator Twins on a Gator Trax? |
I think I'll stick to my LT in the stumps. Yall stay stuck rocking around high centered in those pieces of shit and I'll just pass on by  I will say the ease of handling and speed in open water is nice on a SD, but you guys work yourselves about as hard trying to crawl around with SD's in stumps as you would if you just ran a longtail! |
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| Author: | The Hairy Coot [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gator Twins on a Gator Trax? |
Well, I can promise you Im not getting an LT - back to the subject matter Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD |
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| Author: | OwenDickeson [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gator Twins on a Gator Trax? |
Best bet it to find out the spacing needed for the motors, and see if you even have enough room for them. I bet someone with a dual setup would measure from the outside edge of each transom bracket for you. Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | OwenDickeson [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:40 pm ] |
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| Author: | SETx Longtail [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:52 pm ] |
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I just find it comical that the general consensus says that driving a longtail rig puts you in some sort of sub par group... at least thats the attitude I get. Nobody should ever consider switching from a high end SD, to a "cheap" longtail hahaha I agree, if you dont have a real long run, a longtail would handle that type of terrain a good bit easier. |
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| Author: | The Hairy Coot [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:07 pm ] |
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| Author: | SETx Longtail [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:24 pm ] |
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no, not really this thread in particular. hey, what about twin longtails?! hahahaha |
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| Author: | Woodiebuster [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gator Twins on a Gator Trax? |
I really don't see a dual rig doing much better than a single in this stuff? What do you guys think? |
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| Author: | SETx Longtail [ Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:42 pm ] |
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in the stumps and timber, I see a dual rig having twice the trouble honestly no matter what type of mud motor... twice as much shit in the water to get hung up. |
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| Author: | The Hairy Coot [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gator Twins on a Gator Trax? |
No timber or logs, just 50 yr old willow stumps. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD |
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| Author: | diddyduck [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:23 am ] |
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if gator trax will do it i say roll with it. hell its only money |
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| Author: | msm8281 [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:47 am ] |
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Calen had one at his shop last week with duals. |
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| Author: | Woodiebuster [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:16 am ] |
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Another thing to think about, how will that 1/8 gator trax hold up to a life in the stumps especially with the weight of duals on it? |
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| Author: | The Hairy Coot [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gator Twins on a Gator Trax? |
The water is usually high enough in the first split. Towards the end of the second split it gets low. Not so low that the hull is rubbing stumps all over, but just low enough for the skeg to hit. So not too worried about the hull. |
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| Author: | BoatDR [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gator Twins on a Gator Trax? |
I dont know about your situation (if you have alot of gear to bring to your camp, or if you have a bunch of freeloading friends that dont have a boat), but for running thru timber I'd recomend keeping the motor and getting a smaller boat..........like a 1744 with HD. But if you decide to keep it, yes a 2054 GT will handle dual motors. Personally I recomend a wider boat when a customer comes in and wants a dual rig, but a 54" will work. Oh and FYI, that gas tank is killing you. The 50" and 54" Gator Trax ride tremendously better with as much weight to the rear of the boat as possible. |
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| Author: | rob_E [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:14 pm ] |
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I have a stage 1 on an 18x54 and it has plenty of power. I would be willing to bet that a stage 2 single possibly a stage 3 on that boat would still get you right at 30mph empty and 25-28ish loaded. Have you ever run or riden in a boat that size with a single gtr hopped up a little to see if it would be sufficient? |
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| Author: | The Hairy Coot [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:28 pm ] |
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| Author: | The Hairy Coot [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:31 pm ] |
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| Author: | rob_E [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:00 pm ] |
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| Author: | riverratdm84 [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:53 pm ] |
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I would worry about free board on the back when you ride up on a stump with a narrow dual rig. Might ask uncle j what happens. |
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| Author: | The Hairy Coot [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:01 pm ] |
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It would be like having another guy in the back right? |
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| Author: | JLACOUR [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:18 pm ] |
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| Author: | The Hairy Coot [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:06 pm ] |
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Who out there has twins on an 18x54 or 20x54? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD |
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