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jp1854
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Joined: Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:38 am Posts: 26 Location: Lockport Louisiana
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 pro drive speeds
Posting for a friend... he has a new 36 hp prodrive that he just got back from being serviced and had a 3 blade prop installed and he is turning 4000 rpms and doing about 24 -25 mph with 2 guys and very light load the boat size is 18 foot by 54 wide hull. Im not familiar with prodrive so asking for suggestions. He had a 2 blade prop before but thought by putting the 3 blade his speeds would improve?
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Fri May 30, 2014 9:21 pm |
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DUCK HEARSE
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:48 am Posts: 3161 Location: Alabama
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 Re: pro drive speeds
seems slow to me
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Fri May 30, 2014 9:29 pm |
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jp1854
MMT Member
Joined: Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:38 am Posts: 26 Location: Lockport Louisiana
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 Re: pro drive speeds
Sorry its a 1754 not 1854 and boat is also new not just new motor
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Fri May 30, 2014 9:34 pm |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: pro drive speeds
What year engine?
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Fri May 30, 2014 9:49 pm |
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jp1854
MMT Member
Joined: Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:38 am Posts: 26 Location: Lockport Louisiana
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 Re: pro drive speeds
Purchased new november 2013
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Fri May 30, 2014 9:57 pm |
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jhebert
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:47 am Posts: 104 Location: erath,la
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 Re: pro drive speeds
Try the trim tabs have 19 hours on my new prodrive was only turning 4200 and getting 26 had prodrive set tabs now can run 4650 at 29 2014 18x48 x series with 2014 36 EFI
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Fri May 30, 2014 11:36 pm |
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muddawgchuck
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Joined: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:22 pm Posts: 959 Location: Spurger Tx.
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 Re: pro drive speeds
Mine runs 24-25 with 2 200-215lb guys in it. My boat is very heavy 18x54.
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Sat May 31, 2014 2:58 am |
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Zeek569
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Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:25 am Posts: 668 Location: Where the mud flats are
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 Re: pro drive speeds
What was he running with the 2 blade? The 3 blade isn't faster it just gets on step like a outboard and is more balanced and pulls like a tractor in the veggies and mud a lot better. if he's looking for speed I would stick with the 2 blade
_________________ 18x48 extreme with 37 gtr past boats stage 2 37 gtr on 18x48 sportsman fab Gen 3 36 prodrive on 18x48 sportsman fab Gen 2 36 prodricr on cc 18x48 sportsman fab 07 gtr on 16x54 alweld
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Sat May 31, 2014 10:20 am |
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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: pro drive speeds
The 2 blade I have isn't faster than the 3, and is way way better in the grass than the 3 blade.
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Sat May 31, 2014 12:18 pm |
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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: pro drive speeds
But they are fooling with a lot of different designs.
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Sat May 31, 2014 12:19 pm |
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bayouboy
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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 Re: pro drive speeds
Speeds are close imo for stock and 2 people. Might get a little more if you play with weight distribution.
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Sat May 31, 2014 12:51 pm |
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fishnmoney
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Joined: Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:51 pm Posts: 248
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 Re: pro drive speeds
I run 25mph 2 adults/ 2 kids 12 gallons of gas with my 2014 17x54/ Gen 3 Stock 36 set up(3 Blade Prop). I can run 26 bump 27 one person extra light load. All Deep Water Speeds
I am hoping with the new props they are testing we can gain a mph or two hopefully, but after 50 hrs. on this rig I am going to do headwork and EFI. I am still extremely happy with the all around performance of this rig and I feel it does really well for a stock set up.
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Sat May 31, 2014 1:06 pm |
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westbank504
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Joined: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:44 am Posts: 16
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 Re: pro drive speeds
i run 24mph with 9 gal gas, ice chest, 3 batteries, trolling motor and myself (240lbs)...1754 prodrive boat 36hp prodrive with 3 blade prop. i called my dealership to inquire about EFI. dealer contacted KP and was told EFI wouldnt do anything for me with 3 blade prop, said that the 3 blade prop is being reworked.
i run 24 in deep and shallow water. havent ran with a light load yet, dont expect to gain much more that 1 or 2 mph though. anxious to see if they put out a new wheel that will give considerable gains...
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Sat May 31, 2014 2:39 pm |
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Zeek569
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Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:25 am Posts: 668 Location: Where the mud flats are
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 Re: pro drive speeds
Mine runs 28 by my self 26-27 with 2 people and a yeti full of beer I have the gen 3 tho on a 18-48 my buddy's 1748 runs 31 with just him and 29 with 2 people and a ice chest full of beer and he has the gen 2 2013 with a 2 blade prop so that's what I'm goin off of
_________________ 18x48 extreme with 37 gtr past boats stage 2 37 gtr on 18x48 sportsman fab Gen 3 36 prodrive on 18x48 sportsman fab Gen 2 36 prodricr on cc 18x48 sportsman fab 07 gtr on 16x54 alweld
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Sat May 31, 2014 3:38 pm |
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jp1854
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Joined: Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:38 am Posts: 26 Location: Lockport Louisiana
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 Re: pro drive speeds
Sounds good thanks for all the info I will pass it on to him
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Sat May 31, 2014 6:31 pm |
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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: pro drive speeds
The 3 blade will be a thing of the past before too long I believe.
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Sat May 31, 2014 8:38 pm |
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THE TANK
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:34 pm Posts: 1080 Location: Coteau Homles, La
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 Re: pro drive speeds
I think a 3 blade is a waste of money!
18X48 EFI deck and ported heads with a 2 blade 12x15 2.1 Gen3 I get 31MPH with me and the wife and a ice chest full of beer!
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Sat May 31, 2014 10:36 pm |
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Zeek569
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Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:25 am Posts: 668 Location: Where the mud flats are
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 Re: pro drive speeds
What kind of 2 blade
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Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:16 pm |
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THE TANK
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Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:34 pm Posts: 1080 Location: Coteau Homles, La
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 Re: pro drive speeds
12X12 round ear, but I'm messing with one around 15-17 pitch to lower my RPMs to 4,100 and that one will put me at 33-34
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Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:47 pm |
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Zeek569
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Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:25 am Posts: 668 Location: Where the mud flats are
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 Re: pro drive speeds
_________________ 18x48 extreme with 37 gtr past boats stage 2 37 gtr on 18x48 sportsman fab Gen 3 36 prodrive on 18x48 sportsman fab Gen 2 36 prodricr on cc 18x48 sportsman fab 07 gtr on 16x54 alweld
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Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:58 pm |
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THE TANK
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Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:34 pm Posts: 1080 Location: Coteau Homles, La
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Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:32 pm |
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tchauvin
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Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:23 pm Posts: 4898 Location: Bourg LA
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 Re: pro drive speeds
Gen 3's on 3 different boats I ran are all about 2-3mph slower stock and modded compared to the gen2's
That's one 18/54 pd hull, one 18/48 all weld and one 18/54 sportsmans fab boat. Both 18/54's ran 24-25 stock in deep water and full modded ran 29ish...
Same 18/54 with same mods ran 31/32 easy. Only difference is you cannot bog down the gen 3!
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Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:07 pm |
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THE TANK
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Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:34 pm Posts: 1080 Location: Coteau Homles, La
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tchauvin
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deltaduckmaster
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
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 Re: pro drive speeds
Awesome speeds.  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:44 pm |
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tchauvin
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Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:23 pm Posts: 4898 Location: Bourg LA
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 Re: pro drive speeds
Or you have one of the test props that is claimed to be much better.
I seen one turn stock prop hard on rev limiter not trimmed up only get 28mph!
Actually, been in two of them that turned 4600-4650 with 3" of pitch added! Still only 29-30.
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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THE TANK
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Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:34 pm Posts: 1080 Location: Coteau Homles, La
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Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:12 pm |
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THE TANK
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Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:34 pm Posts: 1080 Location: Coteau Homles, La
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Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:14 pm |
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tchauvin
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THE TANK
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Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:34 pm Posts: 1080 Location: Coteau Homles, La
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Mon Jun 09, 2014 5:28 am |
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tchauvin
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Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:23 pm Posts: 4898 Location: Bourg LA
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I know that,,,
In fact, one of these guys went spend a day at Hopkins shop tweaking one of his bigger props. Basically a bigger version of the props he normally uses for Pd's....
They litterally went back and forth all day bending, shaving, cupping...etc etc..
Best they got was the same speed as the "pitched 3 blade"!!! Not saying hopkins is the best but he at least tried...
It all seemed like a step backwards to me pal. I understand the idea of pushing a bigger boat or stepping a bigger load with the 2.0-1 reduction. However, most dont like the idea of still only doing 23-24 mph.
I believe with the limited RPM range of the briggs it will not work well.
Think about it, couldnt you have accomplished the same by simply running a 27hp prop on the 36hp setup? Get the RPM's up and jump on step faster? I will admit, the 3g's do jump out the water and have a bunch of torque...
This whole things is like comparing a "strait drive" 36hp mud boat to a "clutched one". The one with the clutch will have a shit load more power, but will be 2-3mph slower every day all day no matter how you prop it!
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tchauvin
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Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:23 pm Posts: 4898 Location: Bourg LA
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PM wont go through..
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MarshJB
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tchauvin
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tchauvin
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MarshJB
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jerimiahw
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jerimiahw
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jerimiahw
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