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stxhunter
MMT Member
Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:33 pm Posts: 34
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 Navigating stumps!
I recently acquired a used rig with go-devil on the back. I've been going places I wouldn't have ever considered with an outboard!! My question is how do you guys navigate stump fields like we have in east Texas? Do you normally idle through or go full throttle? I'm not so worried about the exposed stumps, it's more so the stumps that are 1-2" below the surface that get me!! I may be upgrading at the end of the season, who makes a good boat for these kinds of stump infested waters?
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Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:35 am |
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SETx Longtail
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:53 pm Posts: 3480 Location: Hardin County, Tx
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 Re: Navigating stumps!
Well whoever you get to build it, you most definitely need a 3/16" thick hull with extra stringers. My 1/8" hull works but it will eventually get beat up to the point of replacement. I just have to be cautious where and how I run. Hitting one at slow speed will do just as much or more damage since the stern of the boat is usually lower in the water than if you were on plane.
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Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:48 am |
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North LA Hunter
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:39 pm Posts: 6976 Location: West Monroe, LA
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 Re: Navigating stumps!
I hold it wfo. But I build my hulls and I'm more less trying to find something that will break that needs to be redesigned. And I run a cc rig.
When I had a tiller I ran just on plane but not wide open.
But if your running a 1/8 bottom I would take it easy so you don't ruin your hull.
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Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:07 am |
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stxhunter
MMT Member
Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:33 pm Posts: 34
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 Re: Navigating stumps!
From what I've sen I like the way WC boats are built. I've also looked at a few prodrive boats in the area. If going with a center console, does the motor pop up just the same as if it was a tiller steer?
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Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:22 am |
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dguidry
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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 Re: Navigating stumps!
Slow but sure.
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Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:09 pm |
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BlueShamu
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm Posts: 5605 Location: D'town, LA
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 Re: Navigating stumps!
Run WOT...at least on a step so the hull gets over those ones just below the surface. If you idle up on one, it's liable to put your transom below the water line. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO3ffRwJ8jE&sns=emSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:14 pm |
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North LA Hunter
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Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:39 pm Posts: 6976 Location: West Monroe, LA
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Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:51 pm |
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BayouBuster
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:33 am Posts: 1352 Location: Genoa AR
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 Re: Navigating stumps!
I run on step trimmed as high as possible.
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Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:14 pm |
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markoutdoorz
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:19 pm Posts: 283 Location: Texarkana, Texas
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 Re: Navigating stumps!
Same as many others commented, get on step and go but not wot..it's so much worse putting along.
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Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:07 pm |
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med
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:25 am Posts: 6432 Location: the dark side of the moon
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Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:16 pm |
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BayouBuster
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:33 am Posts: 1352 Location: Genoa AR
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Your right on point there Mr. No boat! Hahaha
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Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:09 pm |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:40 pm |
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flint87
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:21 pm Posts: 3214
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I'm a take it easy in the stumps boat driver. Sucks when you get hung up. I don't chance it with my big boat investment. I broke a shaft at a MMT run this summer on a stump. Next boat I get will have a 3/16 bottom
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Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:18 pm |
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med
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:25 am Posts: 6432 Location: the dark side of the moon
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micahb
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:34 am Posts: 174
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 Re: Navigating stumps!
3/16 bottom and stay on step! Going slow and getting stuck sucks in a big boat.
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Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:38 pm |
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flint87
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:21 pm Posts: 3214
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Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:56 pm |
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micahb
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:34 am Posts: 174
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Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:04 pm |
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JD145
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:01 pm Posts: 1289 Location: SWGA
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Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:53 am |
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chris_k
MMT Member
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:35 pm Posts: 25 Location: Florida
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 Re: Navigating stumps!
Idle slowly brah. I used to run my .100 hull go devil in stumps like that. The bottom of the boat looked like a bacon strip it was so hooked, and I cracked the hull twice. Running through stump fields fast is dangerous. Don't be stupid.
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Sat Oct 24, 2015 6:39 am |
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banded-mallard
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4310
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Ask Owen Dickenson. He runs shit like this. Almost need a 1/2" plate bottom. Haha
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Sat Oct 24, 2015 6:55 am |
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Bigrich
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:52 pm Posts: 7064 Location: Mallard country
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Owen has never kept a boat long enough to get a dent in one!!!!!
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Sat Oct 24, 2015 8:14 am |
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Woodiebuster
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:00 pm Posts: 6060 Location: Choudrant, La
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With a longtail its best to go slow for the sake of your shoulder, I used to go wide open everywhere in mine though
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Sat Oct 24, 2015 8:49 am |
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brasso
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:58 am Posts: 5557
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Keep your eyes and Throttle wide open! Learn where the creek and river ways are in the lake.. I know exactly where that pic is taken and your within 50ft of a channel.
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Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:46 am |
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:57 am |
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Crews
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:07 pm Posts: 2260 Location: Lafayette
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Up on step at about half throttle, trimmed up as high as possible
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Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:26 am |
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duckkillah
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:08 am Posts: 100 Location: Upper East TX
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Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:29 am |
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flint87
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:21 pm Posts: 3214
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Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:30 am |
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jc
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:19 pm Posts: 1103
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This is a old cell phone video. Just get up on step and hold on.
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Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:31 am |
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jc
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:19 pm Posts: 1103
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One more thing. Don't try with an 1/8" hull if you want it to last very long.
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Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:32 am |
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kirk
MMT F.E.
Joined: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:52 pm Posts: 870 Location: SW LA
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Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:57 pm |
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dguidry
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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50 years of experience in stumps and boats ... Slow is the way to go. All you young forkers gonna find out the hard way that WOT is a huge mistake. It's exciting but it only take one stump at the right height under the surface to make a bad day for everyone.
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Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:27 pm |
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BlueShamu
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm Posts: 5605 Location: D'town, LA
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Dean, we're not talking about that wood bottom junk you knock holes through.
Most liberals seem to suffer from the same mental condition....it's called stupidity!
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Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:38 pm |
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Bigrich
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Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:52 pm Posts: 7064 Location: Mallard country
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Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:12 pm |
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BlueShamu
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Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm Posts: 5605 Location: D'town, LA
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Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:16 pm |
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swanger011
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Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:22 pm Posts: 260 Location: North East, Tx
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Is That Lake O The Pines? looks like it! rough place to run sometimes! this was a couple years ago at lake o the pines around the lonestar area
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Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:40 pm |
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stxhunter
MMT Member
Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:33 pm Posts: 34
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 Re: Navigating stumps!
Thanks for all the advice. There's no way I could see running WFO out there, but I can see running half throttle or so. It sucks having the tiller handle ripped out of your hand when you hit a stump though, it becomes really hard to steer that way! My next boat will definitely have a 3/16" bottom. From what I've seen WC custom boats uses 3/16" and has 7 longitudinal braces. I'm guessing that should be helpful in areas like this.
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dguidry
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:23 pm |
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Russ
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:07 pm Posts: 4820 Location: West Monroe, LA
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There are a lot of builders that use 3/16" and any number of stringers you want or need.
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Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:18 pm |
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med
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:25 am Posts: 6432 Location: the dark side of the moon
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Have your motor trimmed up and nail it and pop it up on plane and then back off to the point that it nearly wants to drop back off. And roll on. Much better option than creeping and getting on a stump and dipping the back.
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meterman3
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:25 pm Posts: 1407
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That looks like lake Muraval thats a boat eating lake lol slow is the way i go
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