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jtwilliams
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:20 am Posts: 167 Location: Central LA
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 your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
what do you guys think about an 18' boat. i was thinking about getting a 17x50 but came accross an 18x48 that i can get for a decent deal. coming out of a 16x44 that seems like the titanic. I have a 35 gtr with a stage 1(heads, cam, exhaust). Over all how does an 18'r run. with say an average hunting load. seems like it would just run flat and plow water. and if you get it stuck seems like you would have hell getting it out. Im hunting mostly open water ect. Not really in the woods.
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txmudcutter
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:08 am Posts: 2307 Location: Nederland, TX (SETX)
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
I run an 18x48 and i really like the 18 foot, if and when i get a new boat i may get a 20 footer. I was worried about the length when i first got it but after running it some time now can't imagine having any shorter.
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jtwilliams
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:20 am Posts: 167 Location: Central LA
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
teal season is usually a sob. we have about 2 inches of water and a foot of mud. With a bunch of arrowheads and other grass and if you hit one of those little spots you will be stuck. usually you can trim the motor down and give it hell and reverse and forwards until you get a hole. or you have to push it to a ditch. Im just wondering how hard that is to do with that big boat. NoW granted i know it will draft less and not be sitting on the mud like my old one due to it only being 16x44 with the heavy motor hanging off the back. just want to see what the running difference in a 17x50 vs 18x48
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JD145
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:01 pm Posts: 1289 Location: SWGA
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
You'll be happier with the 18 ft.
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HOTSAUCE170
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:44 am Posts: 1685 Location: Lake Blackshear,GA
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
X2 on an 18 ft I have a 1748 and can't keep my front down from porpoising unless I load it down my next boat will be at least 18'
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jtwilliams
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Joined: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:20 am Posts: 167 Location: Central LA
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
What kind of performance difference are we talking between and 17 and 18. Getting up and top end. And I understand with load you loose less with 18
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Gigafowl
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:19 pm Posts: 6441 Location: Trinity Bay - Texas
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
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JD145
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:01 pm Posts: 1289 Location: SWGA
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
Doubt you see alot of difference performance wise but the extra space is such a huge plus. The 18 will carry the load better. If you're worried about having to push it just make sure to get some gator glide. An 1850 sounds perfect
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jtwilliams
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Joined: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:20 am Posts: 167 Location: Central LA
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
What kind of speeds can you expect with a stage 2 35gtr
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JD145
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:01 pm Posts: 1289 Location: SWGA
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
With the right boat, empty, id guess between 32-35. But I'm no gtr guy. Guess it depends on whose stage 2 we are talking about, but I would think somewhere in there
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HOTSAUCE170
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:44 am Posts: 1685 Location: Lake Blackshear,GA
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
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HOTSAUCE170
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:44 am Posts: 1685 Location: Lake Blackshear,GA
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
No Jd is right you would easily have a 30-35 mph boat depending on who does your work ,prop ,boat weight etc.
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jtwilliams
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:20 am Posts: 167 Location: Central LA
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
Kalens heads and cam and stainless work. Just put it on there. Gonna put a mikuni on it before long
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jtwilliams
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Joined: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:20 am Posts: 167 Location: Central LA
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
Also this 18x50 has taper chine so I know that changes things as well
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HOTSAUCE170
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:44 am Posts: 1685 Location: Lake Blackshear,GA
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
I think you will be real happy with that 1850
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jtwilliams
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Joined: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:20 am Posts: 167 Location: Central LA
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
yea i know. im going to go look at it tomorrow. we will see. I think i can get uncle j to build me a 17x50 tapered chine.
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WhoDat88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 4:24 pm Posts: 2912 Location: Thibodaux, La
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
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DeoVindice
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Joined: Thu May 02, 2013 10:45 am Posts: 228 Location: South Alabama
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
I have an 1856 and I like it. When I build my next boat I'm pretty sure it'll be an 1850. From what I'm learning they seem to still be pretty quick and carry a load well too.
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Will
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Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:54 pm Posts: 8133
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
Think of the boat like a see saw. haha. It's all leverage. Between you and a tiller, you'll have as much weight on the ass end as the entire hull weighs by itself. The longer hull will help counter the weight and the boat will draft less in the rear and balance out helping performance all around.
Take a 1754 tiller and an 1854 center console... the bigger 1854 with the center console will be able to take off in more shallow areas than the 1754 tiller due to it being better balanced and not sitting deep in the back.
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MaXXis85
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
I ran a 17' hull and liked it. My next built hull will be minimum of 18'
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ibfishin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:20 pm Posts: 1127 Location: Okeechobee, FL
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
My 18x60 does well. The only thing holding mine back is lack of a decent prop and the 4300 rpm coils. I should get my props this week and 4700 coils in a couple weeks. I have Delta Performance cam, heads, mikuni, MM exhaust. With 2 adults, 2 teenagers, 2 coolers, and 9 gallons of gas. I am hitting the Rev limiter at 30.6mph.
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Duckaholic Doug
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Joined: Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:05 pm Posts: 9
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Jamesriverrat
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Joined: Sat May 31, 2014 6:51 am Posts: 33
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
Try adding gator glide to the bottom of your new boat to keep from getting stuck during teal, it should help you slide over the grass better
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ibfishin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:20 pm Posts: 1127 Location: Okeechobee, FL
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
Delta heads as well.
Going to do Gatorglide this summer.
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banded-mallard
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Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4310
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
17'4" x 48" worth of greased lightening !!!! IMG_2528.JPG
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jtwilliams
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Joined: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:20 am Posts: 167 Location: Central LA
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
These 18x56 and 60's do they have square or tapered chines
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jtwilliams
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Joined: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:20 am Posts: 167 Location: Central LA
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
I'm still kicking This 18/50 tapered chine around
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Quack N Stack
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:43 pm Posts: 2225 Location: Baytown, Tejas
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North LA Hunter
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Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:39 pm Posts: 6976 Location: West Monroe, LA
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 Re: your guys take on an 18' over a 17'
It's 1'. Not going to make that much difference. I bet i can run my 20' rig through anything you can run a 17'. Hell I've beat folks in the timber and they were in 15' boats.
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flint87
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