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Author:  NE TexasNoFlyZone [ Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:17 pm ]
Post subject:  How do they perform in the Sand????

I live in Northeast Texas and i am gonna be in Red River quit a bit running trot lines, duck hunting ect. and its ALL sand. How do the the props perform in the sand if i get in the shallows and have to dig down and bite to move?

Thanks for all the help and advice in advance


Excel F4 1754 Mud Buddy Black Death 5500

Author:  da go get'er [ Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:23 pm ]
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Author:  Woodiebuster [ Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:31 pm ]
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and if it stops in less than 10 inches of water, you better push.

Author:  NE TexasNoFlyZone [ Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:33 pm ]
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Appreciate it go get er, i was afraid that was gonna be reply i was gonna get. Nothing i don't guess can take the punishment sand dishes out...

Author:  NE TexasNoFlyZone [ Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:35 pm ]
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Your kidding me Woodie? That bad huh?

Author:  quackconsumer [ Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:37 pm ]
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Sand is da devil.

Author:  NE TexasNoFlyZone [ Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:42 pm ]
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Looks like i better stay in the deep water lol

Author:  locked-up [ Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:45 pm ]
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Get you a rockguard so you dont run your prop into the sand. I have ran lots of sand with my new Prodrive and rock guard with no problems and no wear on my prop 20 hours and hardly any paint off the prop. Granted you can't run as shallow but you can still go pretty skinny.

Author:  NE TexasNoFlyZone [ Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:54 pm ]
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Aight Locked Up, thank you man i'll keep that in mind

Author:  OwenDickeson [ Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:57 pm ]
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Who you be? I'm in Texarkana as well.

Author:  NE TexasNoFlyZone [ Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:02 pm ]
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Cash Sparks is the name

Author:  Rambeaux [ Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:04 pm ]
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Sand is like an emergency brake on a car

Author:  WestEndAngler [ Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:30 pm ]
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Yeah I tackled a good lookin' girl when I ran up onto a sandbar at the LA Mud Run last year :lol: still have the scar to prove it

Author:  dog walker [ Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:30 pm ]
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Author:  Brasso [ Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:08 pm ]
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I can run mine in the sand all day and it digs like a dream, and doesent wear down until im done

Author:  MaXXis85 [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:35 am ]
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Author:  NE TexasNoFlyZone [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:39 am ]
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Rub lower units? Sounds like you know all about that from experience...I'll pass. My boat don't float down that stream buddy

Author:  OwenDickeson [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:42 am ]
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Ha run that POS in millwood much and it wont be floating at all!

Author:  petrel [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:52 am ]
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for sand, jet drive is the way to go.
I sometimes hunt a reclaimed gravel pit. The bottom is all sand and bank gravel. It is death on my PD propeller. The good news is that so long as you aren't stuck, it isn't too bad to get out and walk.

Author:  NE TexasNoFlyZone [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:31 am ]
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I'll run it in Millwood all day...and float all day. The operator puts the holes in the boat and if I happen to do so
I'm a welder, I can fix it.

Author:  Rambeaux [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:34 am ]
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Author:  dog walker [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:44 am ]
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Author:  Migrator [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:24 pm ]
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If the water is to shallow to float the boat and sand is to hard for motor to pull, you should be able to step out and walk it off in knee boots w/ out getn pants wet. Also, If mud, sand mix is soft enuf to motor through, drop your motor low and keep motor running just enuf rpms to not stall until you can start picking up speed. Many more guys on here that have a lot more knowledge than I but if running in sand just go ahead and get another big blade on order. :mrgreen:

Author:  Sko [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:46 pm ]
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Sand is the devil. Even for a airboat that can run dry ground. Stuff is like Velcro

Author:  NE TexasNoFlyZone [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:51 pm ]
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Yea guys none of this feedback really surprises me about the sand,
That s*** is hard on everything I've ever seen. I'll definitely watch it close
in the Red.

Author:  MudGator [ Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:43 am ]
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i have eaten up a prop running in river sand. rock guard helps quite a bit.

Author:  MudGator [ Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:43 am ]
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i have eaten up a prop running in river sand. rock guard helps quite a bit.

Author:  NE TexasNoFlyZone [ Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:36 pm ]
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Author:  Brinkleydog [ Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:15 pm ]
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I put in over on Hwy8 up stream from you to run lines this tiem of year and SAND SUCKS!!!! If you hit sand just get out and walk...its much cheaper that way. I need 9" in my boat to be able to get on step and keep it that way with a hard or soft sand bottom.

Next tiem i'm up that way i'll give you a ring....i was wantign to look at the F4 hulls.....my girl turn 5 this year and she is wantign a boat :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just mesn with ya.

Where you actualy live?

Author:  NE TexasNoFlyZone [ Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:17 pm ]
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Hahaha...I live in Redwater. We put in off Hwy 8 too..Malden Lake. Right outside of Maud. You know where that is?

Redwater is bout 6 miles southwest of Texarkana...

Author:  flyerfly [ Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:23 pm ]
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I ate up a GD 3 blade (35SD) in sand in less than 15 hours. Lets put it this way my trip back up to the truck on the big river went about 7-8 mph instead of 20 because I had a razor sharp micro prop! :cry: Yeah there went $$$ in short order.

I want someone to make a prop out of D2 tool steel and then just not harden it past say RC55 or so to keep it from getting to brittle. Then let the rock guard keep it from hitting stuff and cracking off. Yeah you would want to carry a regular prop just in case it busted but I bet it would wear alot better than stainless would.

The stainless these props are made from is way to soft for sand...it grinds off the cup in no time and you can kiss goodbye to ALL speed!

Author:  NE TexasNoFlyZone [ Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:13 pm ]
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I don't think it will matter what your prop is made out of, sand will still win :lol:

From what everbodies said on here, and my own experience with it with other rigs

Author:  flyerfly [ Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:36 pm ]
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Author:  KJH [ Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:51 am ]
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I run all sand... It's terrible for props. I've worn off my rock guard and burned many props.

I burned a prop to totally unuseable condition the first hour I ever had my first mud motor.

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