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Buzz Killington
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:33 pm Posts: 2455
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 GTR - does it work for Canada?
So, the clutch covers are plastic and ported?
In the great white north - how would this setup handle the sub 0 weather and ample snow?
To me, a sealed belt housing seems the better choice FOR MY HUNTING ENVIRONMENT
Does anyone hunt far north with a GTR?? Baron Von - you're in Min? What are your thoughts?
Is it still sealed somehow? does water/mud/snow have a chance of entering the belt housing?
Just trying to learn a few things about GTRs and how they would handle Canada winters. I dont know much about them.
Teach me Oh GTR gurus....
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:46 pm |
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dguidry
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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
Gator Tail has a distributor in Russia. They use it all the time in ice, cold, etc. even Siberia. Gotta treat it like snowmobile engine, I guess. Belt housing and clutch are all exposed to the elements through the clutch cover and I would suppose might be problem if you get rain/snow. The worst problem I've had it freezing weather is the throttle cable freezing up on me. It operated in 7 degree weather in Arkansas for about a week last year without any problems. I suppose EFI would be better in colder weather, but the Mikuni carb did just fine in the 7 degree weather.
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:50 pm |
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baron von
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:52 pm Posts: 2806 Location: Minnesota
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
1st year is this year - I'm sure it'll do fine just like your MB
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:25 pm |
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Buzz Killington
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:33 pm Posts: 2455
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
Like I said, just asking. We routinely hunt in severe snow storm.and freezing rain here. Not sure how the open holes to the belt and clutch would hold up.
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:47 pm |
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msm8281
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
Just cover it during storage. Water does get in the housing during heavy rain, but the belt slings it out. That won't be the case if it freezes. I think you''ll be just fine.
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:00 pm |
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MNGunner
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:56 pm Posts: 2623 Location: Minnesota
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
I'm in Minnesota and I hunted all last year with my GTR35. No problems. At the end of the year, I took the cover off and was going to pull the drain plug, but after looking down the belt housing there wasn't a drop of water in there.
I do store mine inside.
What's your main concern? Freezing water in the belt housing? You can drain the belt housing, but I've never had to (just one small drain screw on the bottom, front of the belt housing).
The bigger concern is the engine in the cold (as you well know). EFI would be the ticket there I think.
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:14 pm |
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Buzz Killington
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:33 pm Posts: 2455
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
Freezing water in the belt housing. ... and nothing less than 1" as well.
Cant drain it until you make it back to the ramp
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:36 pm |
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msm8281
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Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
The belt will sling it out.
If it's not frozen
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:40 pm |
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Buzz Killington
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:33 pm Posts: 2455
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
If you guys look at the January POTM I made - you'll see what I deal with on an average day up here.
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:44 pm |
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Will
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Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:54 pm Posts: 8133
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
Get an aluminum cover for it and be done with it
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:49 pm |
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msm8281
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Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
Just keep it covered during storage.if you get a lot of rain while hunting, just start the motor and sling it out.
How many times you hunt and it rains? I would think it would be mostly snow and sleet.
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:52 pm |
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Buzz Killington
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Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:33 pm Posts: 2455
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
Lots of rain in October Rain, sleet, ice and snow November Same for December Jan is just effing cold! -30° and lower
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:57 pm |
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msm8281
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Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
So when it rains how often is the temp below 32 degrees?
In October I don't think u have to worry about it freezing in the belt housing because it will be in the water keeping it warmer than the air temperature. You have no worries with snow and sleet imo. And you might be straining your brain over this issue.
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:03 pm |
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Buzz Killington
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
I want to be the first guy in Canada with a GTR
Which one of you is gonna give me one?
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:05 pm |
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msm8281
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Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
I'll give you one if you drive down here with 76 $100 bills.
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:07 pm |
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North LA Hunter
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Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:39 pm Posts: 6976 Location: West Monroe, LA
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
My new GTR gets water in the belt housing when it rains hard. My old one never did.
Keep it covered and you should be fine!
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:08 pm |
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Buzz Killington
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
_________________ Support your troops - they support you
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:12 pm |
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baron von
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:52 pm Posts: 2806 Location: Minnesota
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
Buzz I am sure the water (if any) in belt housing freezes wont be an issue - unlike the water in your waterpump/cooling system on an outboard freezing, been there. the biggest problem I have with my carbed Vanguard's ( snowblower / skid loader) in real cold weather is starting and keeping them running hopefully EFI will help
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:35 pm |
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baron von
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Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:52 pm Posts: 2806 Location: Minnesota
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
BTW my 2015 was out in 2 pouring rains, no water in belt housing (yet)
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:07 pm |
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duckhunter888
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:44 pm Posts: 828 Location: North Texas
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
I will let you know, my GTR is due to me soon. My plan will be to run until it locks up, then there is always the river. We will see.
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:15 pm |
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MNGunner
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Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:56 pm Posts: 2623 Location: Minnesota
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
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Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:09 pm |
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KJH
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Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:09 pm Posts: 520 Location: Nebraska
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
I hunt North Dakota, South Dakota, and Nebraska with my GTR... since 2007. It always starts no matter how cold it gets.
Never had one problem with cold weather with the exception of the throttle cable. I kept having the moisture/condensation in the cable freeze up and then they won't work. A small torch fixes it temporarily. I soaked the last one in oil for a few days and never had a problem since.
Last November in North Dakota I had it so covered in ice from road spray that I figured that something would break or go wrong... nothing. Worked perfect. Had to chip away the ice and melt a little with the torch to get to the trim button and so I could turn the key to start it.
I have my air intake turned backwards all year long, so I think it gets plenty of warm air from the muffler. Also never had a problem with water in the housing. Never had a problem with snow.
My only issue is that the trim is ULTRA slow when its super cold. I actually don't even mess with it anymore. I just leave it adjusted to it best position and leave it. Reverse doesn't work as well trimmed mostly up, but no complaints.
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Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:17 pm |
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KJH
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Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:09 pm Posts: 520 Location: Nebraska
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
BTW- There is a fire department / EMS south of Winnipeg that has a black 35 GTR on a non-painted aluminum boat. I saw it parked by a road during some red river flooding 2 years ago.
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Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:20 pm |
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baron von
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Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:52 pm Posts: 2806 Location: Minnesota
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
KJH - do you cover motor / tiller controls when trailering thru inclement weather?
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Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:04 pm |
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Buzz Killington
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Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:33 pm Posts: 2455
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Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:45 pm |
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MNGunner
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Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:56 pm Posts: 2623 Location: Minnesota
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
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Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:07 pm |
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baron von
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Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:52 pm Posts: 2806 Location: Minnesota
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
that sounds good MN
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Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:18 pm |
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KJH
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Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:09 pm Posts: 520 Location: Nebraska
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
_________________ 1854 Brother Breaux and Boss 40XP and 90hp outboard.
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:26 am |
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north of the 53rd
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Joined: Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:54 pm Posts: 3
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
I'm in The Pas and there r a couple of guys here that own them. older GT but they r here. I have a new 2015 on order should be here in about 3 weeks. I had a prodrive last year but sold it to a friend, no complaints with a pro drive. Just wanna try the GTR. 
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Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:02 pm |
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KJH
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
_________________ 1854 Brother Breaux and Boss 40XP and 90hp outboard.
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Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:33 pm |
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north of the 53rd
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Joined: Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:54 pm Posts: 3
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 Re: GTR - does it work for Canada?
kewl, yes I do live here. Need the mud motor for reeder and root lake, salt channel dike and saskram. all around The Pas. last year I used my prodrive in culdisac and niska an outboard would've never got in there.
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