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tchauvin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:23 pm Posts: 4898 Location: Bourg LA
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
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Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:05 pm |
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Zeek569
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Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:25 am Posts: 668 Location: Where the mud flats are
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
4550 rpms loaded or unloaded
_________________ 18x48 extreme with 37 gtr past boats stage 2 37 gtr on 18x48 sportsman fab Gen 3 36 prodrive on 18x48 sportsman fab Gen 2 36 prodricr on cc 18x48 sportsman fab 07 gtr on 16x54 alweld
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Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:34 pm |
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msm8281
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
What you call loaded?
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Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:29 pm |
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Zeek569
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Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:25 am Posts: 668 Location: Where the mud flats are
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
3-4 people , dog , guns , she'll bag , and of course beer is my hunting load at 24-25 mph at 4450-4550 rpms
_________________ 18x48 extreme with 37 gtr past boats stage 2 37 gtr on 18x48 sportsman fab Gen 3 36 prodrive on 18x48 sportsman fab Gen 2 36 prodricr on cc 18x48 sportsman fab 07 gtr on 16x54 alweld
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Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:47 pm |
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WhoDat88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 4:24 pm Posts: 2912 Location: Thibodaux, La
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
If everyone got those speeds they would sell many more motors
_________________ 1850 Predator Series Stick Steer Option 40HP Gatortail
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Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:16 pm |
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Terraboat
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:46 am Posts: 288 Location: Northwest Louisiana
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
_________________ 2014 PD 18x54 SBX w/ 36 EFI PD E5
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Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:42 pm |
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stopthetalk
MMT Addict
Joined: Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:21 pm Posts: 677
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
I didn't read all of this post but enough of it to reply. I haven't been doing testing with the new 2 blade. I did take the proto type 2 blade at the start of duck season. I was in a center console, 17' X 54", Carburetor 36HP, top speed with 2 guys, 2 full 6 gallons of fuel was 26-27 MPH @ 4,200 - 4,300 RPM's. Went in some bad stuff, (A place where the others wouldn't even think about going!! ) and the prop was awesome. And that was with a carbureted engine!! This prop was design for the PD Briggs Carbureted, Basic PD EFI & PD EFI E2. I installed a PD EFI E2 on a Gen 3 this week and test ran it with the new 2 blade today. Center Console, 18' X 48" PD hull. It ran 28 - 29 MPH @ 4,600 RPM's. Went on a mud flat!! And Unbelievable!! The new 2 blade needs a little tweaking for the PD EFI engines but its it's great. Now this new 2 blade prop needs a little more tweaking for the PD EFI E5 engine. The PD EFI E5 engine has a little to much HP.
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Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:30 pm |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
4600 rpms needs to be a 31-32 mph setup.
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Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:50 pm |
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stopthetalk
MMT Addict
Joined: Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:21 pm Posts: 677
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
This is another test run I did during the end of duck season. Was in a 18' X 48" PD Hull, Tiller Handle PD EFI E5, STT Muffler, 3 blade prop ( Yep The 3 Blade) 2 full 6 gallons fuel tanks, one 50 quart K2 full of water and ice!! , one 48 quart full of ice and water!! , My black lab Diesel (85 lbs.), Guns, ammo, camping cloths, etc. Boat got out the water great and ran 27 - 28 MPH @ 4,580 - 4,600 RPMs. Arrived at the camp, removed about 170 lbs. of weight, and the boat jumped on step & ran 28 -29 MPH @ 4,580 - 4,600 RPM's. The speed didn't gain much but the load carrying was great. And that was with the 3 blade prop. The New PD EFI E5 Engine w/ the Performance Program is doing GOOD.
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Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:14 pm |
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WhoDat88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 4:24 pm Posts: 2912 Location: Thibodaux, La
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
Can a motor last running that high RPM's all the time? It just seems high man
_________________ 1850 Predator Series Stick Steer Option 40HP Gatortail
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Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:16 pm |
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stopthetalk
MMT Addict
Joined: Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:21 pm Posts: 677
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
The one I been running has about 80 + hours on it. And believe me, I run it like I stole it!!
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Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:21 pm |
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WhoDat88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 4:24 pm Posts: 2912 Location: Thibodaux, La
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
_________________ 1850 Predator Series Stick Steer Option 40HP Gatortail
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Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:29 pm |
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stopthetalk
MMT Addict
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
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Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:41 pm |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
Better to let her run wild than keep her bogged down and over-propped. Read back through some of the posts a few years ago when everyone was trying to build props to keep the motors in the 4k range and how many cracked blocks and blown up motors there were. Lot less of that seems to be going on with everyone turning higher rpm's. If the motor is makin power still, don't try to bog it down. Let 'er eat...
It still happens. Just doesn't seem quite as rampant as it was there for a little bit.
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Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:46 pm |
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WhoDat88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 4:24 pm Posts: 2912 Location: Thibodaux, La
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
_________________ 1850 Predator Series Stick Steer Option 40HP Gatortail
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Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:26 pm |
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Terraboat
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:46 am Posts: 288 Location: Northwest Louisiana
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
_________________ 2014 PD 18x54 SBX w/ 36 EFI PD E5
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Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:48 pm |
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tchauvin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:23 pm Posts: 4898 Location: Bourg LA
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
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Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:22 pm |
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JLACOUR
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4915 Location: Lake Jackson, TX
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
_________________ 37 PD EFI FPR 18x48 Tiller SOLD -- 36 PD EFI FPR 18x48 Stick Steer SOLD -- 27 PD FPR 16x36 Skiff
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Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:31 pm |
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Terraboat
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:46 am Posts: 288 Location: Northwest Louisiana
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
Thanks! Your 18x54 SBX numbers should let me know want I can expect after e5. I'm getting a lot of money into my toy, but fun to take kids hunting and swamp running, so worth every penny.
_________________ 2014 PD 18x54 SBX w/ 36 EFI PD E5
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Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:16 pm |
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JLACOUR
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4915 Location: Lake Jackson, TX
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
The boat is for a buddy of mine. It runs wells for a heavy boat and usually stays loaded to the gills.
_________________ 37 PD EFI FPR 18x48 Tiller SOLD -- 36 PD EFI FPR 18x48 Stick Steer SOLD -- 27 PD FPR 16x36 Skiff
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Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:32 pm |
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:16 am |
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Zeek569
MMT Addict
Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:25 am Posts: 668 Location: Where the mud flats are
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
_________________ 18x48 extreme with 37 gtr past boats stage 2 37 gtr on 18x48 sportsman fab Gen 3 36 prodrive on 18x48 sportsman fab Gen 2 36 prodricr on cc 18x48 sportsman fab 07 gtr on 16x54 alweld
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Sat Feb 28, 2015 7:28 am |
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tchauvin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:23 pm Posts: 4898 Location: Bourg LA
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
Not saying your not getting those speeds...
But if you are,,,you should have kept it, cause 99% of the Gen3's are not getting close to the older Gen2's speeds.
Actually, i never seen one that was stock come close. You are the first...
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Sat Feb 28, 2015 7:43 am |
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msm8281
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
Oldest trick in the book. "Oh yea it does it"..."Well show me"...."can't...I sold it":lol::lol:
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Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:00 am |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
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Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:11 am |
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Kja0792
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:36 pm Posts: 444
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
4720 is 35 .5 mph on mine with gtr and old gear and stock prop that's empty or loaded down runs the same speed
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Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:08 pm |
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msm8281
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
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Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:44 pm |
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stopthetalk
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
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Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:34 pm |
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schauv01
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Joined: Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:50 am Posts: 565 Location: Union, LA
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
STT, what is the difference between the E2 and E5?
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Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:37 pm |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
E5 will have an aftermarket camshaft.
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Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:00 am |
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tchauvin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:23 pm Posts: 4898 Location: Bourg LA
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
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Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:29 am |
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JTodd1976
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:42 pm Posts: 71
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
Tchauvin... Almost identical result I saw on an 1854 CC SBX hull... Two people, full fuel... 27-28mph @ 4700rpm.. Motor is EFI Gen 3, .050 Heads, Gutted Stock Exhuast.. Definitely needs a bit more pitch.. Now what was impressive with the new 2-blade is the bite down low.. This prop hooks up 10x better than any of the 3-Blades I've run and just jumps outta the hole, which quite frankly was my biggest issue with this boat. I run heavy ALL the time and have been just blowing the 3-Blades out and cavitating like mad down low.
I'm gonna send it to Baggy and have it turned up a bit.
_________________ ____________________________________________ 36 PD Gen 3 EFI FPR 18x54 SBX CC Self Bailing Hull
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Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:28 am |
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tchauvin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:23 pm Posts: 4898 Location: Bourg LA
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
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Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:52 am |
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Terraboat
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:46 am Posts: 288 Location: Northwest Louisiana
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
_________________ 2014 PD 18x54 SBX w/ 36 EFI PD E5
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Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:06 am |
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JTodd1976
MMT Pro Member
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
Not much notable difference in top speed for me, maybe 1/2 - 1 mph, but my boat is wicked heavy.. Basically add another adult for the SBX hull weight.. So results above are effectively for 3 people and full fuel.
I've got plenty of power to spin this prop at a higher pitch. Just a little tweaking required. I can't expect PD to make a huge range of props that will include wheels that will be just perfect for all of our different mods and power levels.
Honestly it's a huge step in the right direction for being able to utilize the advantages of the Gen3 lower. This prop hooks up and pulls like a freight train and is very smooth through the whole rpm range. I'm very pleased to have a base to work from, playing with SD props is WAY cheaper than playing with props on my BassCat!
_________________ ____________________________________________ 36 PD Gen 3 EFI FPR 18x54 SBX CC Self Bailing Hull
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Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:24 am |
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MBfrogsnatcher19
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:41 am Posts: 107
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
Does anyone have any stock data. Goin from a 3 blade to the 2 blade. And also anyone have any more info about the other prop that zeek was talking about on the first page
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Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:19 am |
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tchauvin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:23 pm Posts: 4898 Location: Bourg LA
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
The data is here....Most dont want to accept it.
The stock 2 blade offers much more bite vs the 3 blade and you might get .5-1mph maybe...stock vs stock.
The biggest diff is it slips much less when taking off and in the lower RPM range. Up on top, its real close.
From what i seen, its a much better setup but dont buy it with expectations of making the 3g run like a 2g....IMO.
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Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:50 am |
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Zeek569
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Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:25 am Posts: 668 Location: Where the mud flats are
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
If yall come to the ride on Saturday you will see some 35 mph gen 3's and nobody has seen that prop I'm talking about me and one other person are the only ones that ran it
_________________ 18x48 extreme with 37 gtr past boats stage 2 37 gtr on 18x48 sportsman fab Gen 3 36 prodrive on 18x48 sportsman fab Gen 2 36 prodricr on cc 18x48 sportsman fab 07 gtr on 16x54 alweld
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Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:49 am |
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tchauvin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:23 pm Posts: 4898 Location: Bourg LA
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
First off,,,i dont believe this...Would hope someone would post it.
Second, if this prop does exist,,,,why in the hell is PD not selling it?
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Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:54 am |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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Re: ProDrive 2-Blade Gen 3 Prop
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Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:55 am |
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