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Author: | WiscoBackwater [ Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:19 pm ] |
Post subject: | GTR 35 pushing a 1860 Excel SWV86OFP |
MM Brand: GatorTail Horsepower: Stock 35 Boat Brand: Excel Boat Size: 1860 Model: 1860SWV86OFP Boat Layout: Shallow Water V front Open Floor Plan, Single Box. 4 seat bases, high deck. Speeds | Shallow Water: (2.2 feet) 24.6 MPH @ ~3650 RPMs Speeds | Deep Water: (4.5 feet) 24 Mph @ ~3650 RPMs (Max RPM at end of day flashing on tach was 3710) Total Boat Load With Gear Etc: 3 ppl, Myself (170lbs), buddy ( 240lbs) buddy's gf maybe ![]() Conditions Tested In: 7 mph tail wind, on a regular old lake. Comments: Boat was purchased 2 months ago new, but as a 2012 model year. The motor arrived saturday at Wisconsin's GT dealer. Was finally hoisted and affixed to the transom this morning. Motor is a new 2015 GTR 35 completely stock. To make a long problematic story short, I contacted the boat factory for something, provided the serial number on the hull. Well according to their computer records this boat is a F86 style but without the .125 5086 aluminum hull. Well researching the model number before purchase, then the assurance of the sales folk, and receiving paperwork and a title that states F86, I had no reason to believe it wasn't a F86 with .125 5086. ![]() ![]() ![]() Back to the numbers: For conservative purposes, let's say it is .100 5052 aluminum. Website states 825 pounds for the exact rig with OFP. (the .125 is 860 lbs btw) then add the 260+ lbs of GT on the back and it sits well over a half ton. For the maiden voyage I decided I would TRY to abide by the 5-10 hour Briggs break in rules. Well I only cracked her 3/4 open for maybe a total of a minute thirty for my tests. Couldn't help but Punch WOT then back off 5 seconds later. As a result I didn't get to play with the trim to find exact sweet spot. Probably could run her harder but would rather follow that 5 hour rule. Wound up putting 2 hrs on the motor via the tach. Seems like it counts time a little faster then those Swiss folks but I won't complain as I await 5 hours ![]() |
Author: | mud slinger 69 [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:30 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GTR 35 pushing a 1860 Excel SWV86OFP |
Thats a nice set up. Hope those speeds come up when you get some hrs on it. |
Author: | BDUBYA [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:38 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GTR 35 pushing a 1860 Excel SWV86OFP |
I just got a 1851vF86 TGB. I thought all 86's were .125 btm. Sounds to me like you got an F4 with a 86 sticker. Where did you get your boat weights from. Mine shows to be 740lbs without the motor. Have you spoke with Dave Reynolds? He has always been helpful to me for Excel & MB. |
Author: | SCmudder7071 [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:54 am ] |
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That's a F86 transom for sure. |
Author: | WiscoBackwater [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:57 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GTR 35 pushing a 1860 Excel SWV86OFP |
BDUBYA- I found the boat weights from the excel boats PDF online after google searching for it. That PDF brochure listed all the different setups and models with their weights. http://www.excelboats.net/EXCELCATALOG2014%205.pdf I spoke with Dave as he was the bearer of bad news for this all |
Author: | baron von [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:01 am ] |
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nice rig! I see you found the shipping crate makes a great engine stand too. |
Author: | WiscoBackwater [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:29 am ] |
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Author: | WiscoBackwater [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:32 am ] |
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Author: | BDUBYA [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:32 am ] |
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Is your boat stamped .100? I believe mine has a stamp .125 on it. How did you find out it wasnt .125? |
Author: | dixieducker [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:34 am ] |
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good looking rig. That must be a small guy to be able to hide behind the motor/ |
Author: | WiscoBackwater [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:05 am ] |
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Author: | baron von [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:40 pm ] |
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how come you were not at Goose Island with this rig - would have been nice to have another GTR and Battleship there ![]() ![]() |
Author: | lastchance [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:25 pm ] |
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Author: | WiscoBackwater [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:52 pm ] |
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Author: | basinhunter2012 [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:22 pm ] |
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Author: | BDUBYA [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:00 am ] |
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I paid $9800 TTL. Dont know the price dif in aluminum. Never seen that option. How did you end up with a 2012 model to begin with? I had to wait 6 weeks for them to make mine. I'm very happy with it but if your running hard you won't like the bottom you got. My buddy's F4 dented up in 1 season. But he hit every stump that could be hit hauling 4-5 people and gear. |
Author: | BDUBYA [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:27 am ] |
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F86 |
Author: | WiscoBackwater [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:42 pm ] |
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Author: | BDUBYA [ Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:55 am ] |
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I'm glad to hear they are gonna make it right. Really it's the salesman that I would have been pissed off at. I'm sure somewhere in the conversation about the boat you mentioned the bottom and he didn't inform you of the difference. I got the 51" because I already had a trailer which is 1' short now and I run a lot of stumps. Squeezed between a few last year running at night that I do t think a 54" would have passed. The new boat rides like a dream and looks dam good. I hope it all turns around for ya quickly so you can enjoy the product you thought you had. |
Author: | koonce727 [ Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:10 pm ] |
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