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QuackQuack
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Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:31 pm Posts: 44 Location: Central Wisconsin
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 35hp Long tail on a 1644
Will a 35hp Long tail work on a 1644 with pods or is that a little too much motor for that boat?? Thanks.
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:15 pm |
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huck Finn
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:42 pm Posts: 1913 Location: Conroe tx
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
Oh it will work , but could be sketchy , I'd be real careful on the throttle especially while turning tight.
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:23 pm |
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QuackQuack
MMT Member
Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:31 pm Posts: 44 Location: Central Wisconsin
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
well i see alot of guys with a 1648 with out pods running a 35hp. I kind figured this would be about the same seeing im getting pods. What if i steped it up to like a 1646 with pods would that make it much better.??
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:40 pm |
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Bigbuckfever
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat May 28, 2011 11:18 pm Posts: 2114 Location: Slinger, WI
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
Why not just go to an 1844 without pods?
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:13 pm |
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QuackQuack
MMT Member
Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:31 pm Posts: 44 Location: Central Wisconsin
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
1. with a 18 foot boat i will never be able put it in my garage
2. I dont need that much boat i hunt 60% of the time alone and the rest of the time its me and another guy so it would be alot of wasted space.
3. I feel that the extra 2 feet would be alot more of a pain to to get into the tighter spots.
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:18 pm |
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4Cody4
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:21 am Posts: 2530 Location: Land of 10,000 Lakes
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 35hp Long tail on a 1644
If you don't already have the boat, I would 100% recommend going with an 18' boat. I've got a 1644 and wouldn't go much bigger than the 24hp longtail I have on it.
If you are set on the 16' I'd recommend the 23 hp or so. I'll see 18-20 empty with a new prop.
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:18 pm |
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QuackQuack
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Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:31 pm Posts: 44 Location: Central Wisconsin
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:24 pm |
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Bigbuckfever
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat May 28, 2011 11:18 pm Posts: 2114 Location: Slinger, WI
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
So I'm confused.... 16' + pods is going to be about 17' + some odd inches. I'd rather have the extra lenth go to usable space in the boat than to pods.
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:25 pm |
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QuackQuack
MMT Member
Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:31 pm Posts: 44 Location: Central Wisconsin
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
The boat builder im going with only builds boats with pods built right into them. The pods make absoultly no diffrence for if its gonna fit in my garage or not what sticks out the furthest is the handle of the motor when the prop is turned onto the boat. With a 16 foot boat i have only a few inches to spare from toung to motor handle. so even a 17foot boat would not fit wether it had Pods or not
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:30 pm |
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Bigbuckfever
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat May 28, 2011 11:18 pm Posts: 2114 Location: Slinger, WI
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
I'm a fan of a 1648 with a 27...without pods. But if you're set on pods have at it.
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:34 pm |
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Bigbuckfever
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat May 28, 2011 11:18 pm Posts: 2114 Location: Slinger, WI
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
I think wm on here is running a 1648 with a 35 without pods if I remember correctly.
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:36 pm |
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QuackQuack
MMT Member
Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:31 pm Posts: 44 Location: Central Wisconsin
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
The decision im actually trying to make is between a kohler 27EFI and a 35 vanguard.
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:38 pm |
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Bigbuckfever
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat May 28, 2011 11:18 pm Posts: 2114 Location: Slinger, WI
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
I don't think the weight difference is all that much.
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:48 pm |
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QuackQuack
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Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:31 pm Posts: 44 Location: Central Wisconsin
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:54 pm |
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Bigbuckfever
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat May 28, 2011 11:18 pm Posts: 2114 Location: Slinger, WI
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
Efi sure would be nice if for no other reason than cold starts.
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:00 pm |
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QuackQuack
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Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:31 pm Posts: 44 Location: Central Wisconsin
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
Yea i know especially on those mornings when its 10 out
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:05 pm |
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Bigbuckfever
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat May 28, 2011 11:18 pm Posts: 2114 Location: Slinger, WI
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
Wait, who's putting an efi on a lt?
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:16 pm |
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QuackQuack
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Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:31 pm Posts: 44 Location: Central Wisconsin
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
Kohler it comes from Kohler that way
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:31 pm |
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Bigbuckfever
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat May 28, 2011 11:18 pm Posts: 2114 Location: Slinger, WI
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
What longtail manufacturer is using it though?
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:33 pm |
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QuackQuack
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Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:31 pm Posts: 44 Location: Central Wisconsin
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
Back Water mud motors out of minnesota
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:34 pm |
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QuackQuack
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Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:31 pm Posts: 44 Location: Central Wisconsin
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
I talked with Jake from back water and apparently a few years ago they did some testing for kohler with the 27EFI and something about now they have exclusive rights to that motor.
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:38 pm |
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Bigbuckfever
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat May 28, 2011 11:18 pm Posts: 2114 Location: Slinger, WI
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
Gotchya
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:49 pm |
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indawoods
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Joined: Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:32 am Posts: 287
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:11 pm |
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duck
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Joined: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:34 pm Posts: 57
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
I run a 35 Vanguard on a 1648. No problem with stability or turning (saftey wise, Turning any longtail is PITA). I usually run with and hunt 3 people out of it.
I also fit mine in the garage. Had to cut the tongue to get it to fit and only have about an inch clearance.
Are there any specific questions you have?
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wm
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Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:48 pm Posts: 782 Location: Eau Claire Wi
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:54 pm |
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QuackQuack
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Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:31 pm Posts: 44 Location: Central Wisconsin
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:12 pm |
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Bigbuckfever
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat May 28, 2011 11:18 pm Posts: 2114 Location: Slinger, WI
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
If you can find a way to get a bigger hull to fit in you garage, do that. Don't do pods no matter what size hull. The 27 on a 16' is plenty of power, although an 18 will go anywhere a 16 will. the only disadvantage of a longer hull is if you get up a narrow creek and need to turn around. That all being said efi would be badass! (1842 with a 27 efi could be awesome!)
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:22 pm |
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stualaska
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Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:34 am Posts: 578 Location: North Pole, Alaska
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
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QuackQuack
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Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:31 pm Posts: 44 Location: Central Wisconsin
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duck
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Joined: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:34 pm Posts: 57
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
I have seen several 35s on several skinny boats. I can tell you the 1648 is plenty stable without pods. Pods did add about 3'' of draft on a buddies 1542/44 with a 27.
My only scare was this season. Waiting at the locks to the lake a big deep hull ski boat passed pretty close behind me creating a big wake. I couldnt get to the front of the boat fast enough. Made it out dry thank goodness.
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:10 pm |
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scottfarm
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:28 am Posts: 59
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
I also have a mudbuddy 35hp longtail on my 16X48 shallow drive go devil boat and I love it. You never have too much motor.
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:42 pm |
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quackhunter99
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Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:46 pm Posts: 186 Location: Tallahassee, FL/Oxford, MS
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
We have a 16x56 go devil boat (no pods) with a 35. Runs fantastic
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laoyang
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Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:13 am Posts: 57
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
35hp long tail on 1648 will be perfect! Speed and stability!
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bignate176
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Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:10 pm Posts: 96 Location: Ridgeville, SC and Harrisburg,IL
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
I'm runnen a 31 GDLT on a 1642 and have no problems. Yea it ant a 35 but if i could i would run a 35. empty im runnen almost 20-21. when i hunt i'll have 2 more guys and gear. kills my speed but still don't have any problems. As much as i love my rig, i wish i had another foot or so of space and i wish it was atleast a 48. when i got the rig i thought it would be plenty big but i just wish i had more room for gear.
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bignate176
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Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:10 pm Posts: 96 Location: Ridgeville, SC and Harrisburg,IL
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
make that a 1542 not 1642
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caber
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Joined: Wed May 05, 2010 10:19 am Posts: 79
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
I'm running a 35 Vangaurd lt on a 15ft commercial hull. I really like my set up.
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Sun May 12, 2013 10:37 pm |
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Glades Ranger
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:32 pm Posts: 1490 Location: south Florida
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 Re: 35hp Long tail on a 1644
The only thing I would add to this discussion, is if you're going with Back H2O, the SS 59" 35HP LT might be the best fit for that 1648. I run a 1648 grizzly with a 27 MB LT and it is fine for me but definitely would want the added push and 3 xtra mph the 35 would give me. 
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