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Curdog87
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Joined: Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:10 pm Posts: 11
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 Which long tail should I?
I recently purchased a 15ft Grumman Jon boat. I'm in the middle of rebuilding and beefing up the transom. Owner before never thru bolted the kicker motor and every time the motor would torque it would work that transom back n forth. Also the wood was rotten. I've always ran my airboat and had a Jon boat with a kicker motor but never a mud motor. I would like something to shit n git. Going to measure the transom tomorrow but I'm sure it around a 16". Also will measure the width but as well I'm sure it's a 48". What would be a good longtail to look into. Hp? Wise. Also I have a brand new in the box 22hp predator that we have at the shop. Was thinking why not get an sps or whatever. What's y'all input. I run the river n grass flats a lot.
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Curdog87
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Joined: Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:10 pm Posts: 11
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 Re: Which long tail should I?
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huck Finn
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:42 pm Posts: 1913 Location: Conroe tx
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 Re: Which long tail should I?
Get a backwater glider kit. , it's the best out there right now. . Thank me later. .
H Finn
_________________ Ole black water keep on rolling
18x54 Uncle J -GTR - with the koolaid Back H2o SWOMP 23 SS stage 2 15x36 GD Duck Skiff GATOR GATOR GLIDE PROSTAFF BACKWATER PROSTAFF http://www.gatorglide.com
Coupe rest in peace brother
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Kcpanages
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Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:41 am Posts: 532
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Curdog87
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Joined: Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:10 pm Posts: 11
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 Re: Which long tail should I?
I had time today to take the measurements and the transom is 16" and the bottom width is 42". Was is a good hp match from y'all's experiance. As I stated before I do have a predator 22hp at the shop just sitting there. Thanks again
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Sat Dec 27, 2014 4:06 pm |
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Kcpanages
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Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:41 am Posts: 532
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Curdog87
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Joined: Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:10 pm Posts: 11
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Kcpanages also I'm rebuilding my transom now. Would help any to set the motor back with a jack plate made out of angle or just go ahead and replace the wood and beef up the transom?
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Sat Dec 27, 2014 4:22 pm |
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Kcpanages
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Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:41 am Posts: 532
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Delta1389
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Joined: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:24 pm Posts: 310 Location: Morgan City, LA
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 Re: Which long tail should I?
Rebuild the transom. A jack plate isn't going to help anything. Like said backwaters transom mount has adjustments on it for different transoms and heights. They also offer their versa mount if the standard one won't work on you boat I think the versa mount works from 12*-16*.
_________________ 35 GTR on an 1844 Sportsman Fab hull Build thread: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=57498
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Honky Kong
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Joined: Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:41 pm Posts: 227 Location: Mankato, MN
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 Re: Which long tail should I?
Another vote for the Backwater kit. I run a 23 Backwater Swomp on a 1448 and it's about perfect.
_________________ Backwater Swomp 23 / Lowe L1448M
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Mon Dec 29, 2014 5:08 pm |
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Gunshinestate407
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Joined: Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:58 pm Posts: 216 Location: Orlando
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Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:58 pm |
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ashleyriverboy
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Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:20 am Posts: 5
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 Re: Which long tail should I?
get a swamp runner. cheap reliable, just as fast as the backwater, and easy as crap to work on. i have a small kit with a predator 212 on my alumacraft 1436 and i get 17-15 with two people and some gear(stage 1 upgrades.) my point is, just because there outstandingly cheaper doesnt make them bad. most people on here hate them(IDK why) but there the best for the money. hope this helps.
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FRANKtheTAU
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Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:30 pm Posts: 1386 Location: West TN
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_________________ 40 Backwater SWOMP Lite / 1752 Alweld Mud
6.5 Backwater SWOMP Lite / 1440 PolarKraft
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Honky Kong
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Joined: Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:41 pm Posts: 227 Location: Mankato, MN
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_________________ Backwater Swomp 23 / Lowe L1448M
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WhoDat88
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Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 4:24 pm Posts: 2912 Location: Thibodaux, La
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23hp go devil long tail hot dipped. That thing will last a very very long time.
_________________ 1850 Predator Series Stick Steer Option 40HP Gatortail
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FRANKtheTAU
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:30 pm Posts: 1386 Location: West TN
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Get a hot dipped Backwater.
_________________ 40 Backwater SWOMP Lite / 1752 Alweld Mud
6.5 Backwater SWOMP Lite / 1440 PolarKraft
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WhoDat88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 4:24 pm Posts: 2912 Location: Thibodaux, La
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_________________ 1850 Predator Series Stick Steer Option 40HP Gatortail
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Kcpanages
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Schmidty721
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huck Finn
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Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:42 pm Posts: 1913 Location: Conroe tx
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_________________ Ole black water keep on rolling
18x54 Uncle J -GTR - with the koolaid Back H2o SWOMP 23 SS stage 2 15x36 GD Duck Skiff GATOR GATOR GLIDE PROSTAFF BACKWATER PROSTAFF http://www.gatorglide.com
Coupe rest in peace brother
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Delta1389
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Joined: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:24 pm Posts: 310 Location: Morgan City, LA
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 Re: Which long tail should I?
It gets in there but it's not bad. I just clear it out after I'm done riding. I lost the little rubber deal that they send with it that would normally keep most of the grass out.
_________________ 35 GTR on an 1844 Sportsman Fab hull Build thread: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=57498
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Honky Kong
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Joined: Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:41 pm Posts: 227 Location: Mankato, MN
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_________________ Backwater Swomp 23 / Lowe L1448M
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WhoDat88
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Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 4:24 pm Posts: 2912 Location: Thibodaux, La
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_________________ 1850 Predator Series Stick Steer Option 40HP Gatortail
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Delta1389
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Joined: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:24 pm Posts: 310 Location: Morgan City, LA
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Yea it's just a short piece of rubber tubing. I cut a piece and replaced it but wasn't happy with how big it was so I left it off. Like I said, the grass that gets in is minimal. I use to get way more grass wrapped around the shaft of my GD. That doesn't happen on these motors.
_________________ 35 GTR on an 1844 Sportsman Fab hull Build thread: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=57498
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