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Author:  Jpeelout [ Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:58 pm ]
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I bought a LT frame from someone and can't figure out who made it. I called Go-Devil and talked to a lady who told me what to look for on their frame. It's not a Go-Devil and they won't sell me any parts. Unfortunately I don't have any pics of it yet but will take some tomorrow. It came with the transome yoke, frame, bushings and bearings installed, and all grease fittings. The cav. plate is welded to the shaft housing and bent on a 90* angle on the leading edges. It is also cut at about a 45* angle from the housing to the trailing edge with a bolted on "trim tab" at the very rear edge. I paid $50 for it so I didn't want to pass it up. Now I need parts to finish rigging it out, I've got the hunting feaver!

Author:  Jpeelout [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:44 am ]
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Hopefully these will help. I need to get parts so I can use it. Godevil being the closest, will not sell me parts. :roll:

Author:  Jpeelout [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:46 am ]
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some more.

Author:  Jpeelout [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:48 am ]
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Last two.

Author:  Jpeelout [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:40 am ]
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Some deminsions:
bearing to bushing, end to end = 60 3/4"
3/4" bore
engine plate is 8 1/4"x9"
tail bracket is 8 1/4" off top of engine plate and 10 `/4" to top of tail bracket

Author:  Woodiebuster [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:11 am ]
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The transom bracket is godevil, dunno what the rest is.

Author:  Jpeelout [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:25 pm ]
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After looking at some of the welds on the frame, I'm thinking that it's homemade. Any thoughts on where I can get a shaft and u-joint for this thing?

Author:  kibb [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:35 pm ]
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Not a GD. I also think its homemade due to the weld quality.

Author:  SwampDonkey1 [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:56 pm ]
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Shaft- 3/4 inch cold-rolled steel. Length will be determined once you get your engine mounted. Take the rod to a machine shop once you have your length and thread at one end (prop side) keyed at the other (yoke side).
Yokes/u-joint- I got my yokes and u-joint at Napa Auto Parts. We matched the 1" engine yoke with the same series yoke for the 3/4" shaft and they carry a u-joint for the series. You could probably find them online somewhere, (McMaster Carr). Not too hard with a little bit of know how.

Author:  jp0242 [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:47 pm ]
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http://www.driveshaftparts.com/end-yoke ... d_495.html

you can try these i seen them after i paid $140 for the one from go devil

Author:  Jpeelout [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:55 pm ]
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Thanks guys, so y'all think I should buy an engine before I buy the shaft, u-joint and prop. I wish I knew what frame they copied from to give me more of an idea of what I need.

About the shaft, What thread count is on the prop end and what key size is on the yoke end? I can cut those myself, I have access to the right machines (lathe and mill).

Author:  kibb [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:49 pm ]
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10 tpi. Key is probably 1/4x1 1/4. I can measure it tomorrow.

Author:  kibb [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:52 pm ]
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1/4x1 for 8-23 hp.

1/4x1 1/8 for 21-35 hp.

Author:  Jpeelout [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:00 pm ]
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Thanks kibb,
New question, is the frame built to take any engine size? If so I'm going to put a 23hp on it.

Author:  Jpeelout [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:00 pm ]
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Thanks kibb,
New question, is the frame built to take any engine size? If so I'm going to put a 23hp on it.

Author:  kibb [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:07 pm ]
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If its a home build it probably for a specific engine. With minor modification, if any, any engine should work.

Author:  reaperswrenchman [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:12 pm ]
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i think it is a beavertail. looks like my 1998 20 hp honda!!!!!

Author:  SwampDonkey1 [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:55 am ]
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Just drill new holes if need be in the frame, heck you may get lucky and have the holes match up. Mount your motor up and assemble! Just be cautious of the height of the shaft on the engine side!

Author:  Jpeelout [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:21 pm ]
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If push comes to shove, I can always modify it to fit an engine with a taller shaft dimension. I have a welding machine and a grinder. No big deal.

Author:  Jpeelout [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:23 pm ]
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Anybody know where I can get a shaft?

Author:  reaperswrenchman [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:28 pm ]
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explorebeavertail.com go to parts and the shaft is $103

Author:  Jpeelout [ Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:35 pm ]
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Will Beavertail sell the shaft to me if the frame isn't one of theirs?
How about these cheap engines y'all are talking about? Are they any good? Where can I get them?

Author:  hutinthemducksinla [ Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:07 pm ]
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I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is a beavertail. I have one just like it. Yes it will hold up to a 23 hp. Good thing about the frame is it is steel. You can weld anything you want to on it or fix something when it breaks. I wouldn't take it in brackish water because you will probably get a pile of rust. Check out the beavertail parts manual online. Check out this link for motors. Don't know how good they are but for the money it definately can't be too bad especially on a small budget. http://www.carrollstream.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=22

Author:  hutinthemducksinla [ Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:10 pm ]
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oh and if you don't want to spend the money to fix it. I will give you $75 fror the frame. LOL

Author:  Jpeelout [ Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:51 pm ]
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Themducks,
I guess I'll have to give them a call tomorrow. Does your's have a number punched into the side support like mine?

Author:  Jpeelout [ Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:54 pm ]
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Thanks but, no thanks on the offer. I've been looking for a while for something like this, really wanted the complete assy. but beggers can't be choosers!

Author:  reaperswrenchman [ Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:57 pm ]
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i dont see why they wouldn't sell u the parts it is there frame. give them a call.

Author:  hutinthemducksinla [ Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:07 am ]
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No mine is not stamped that way but it is stamped into the metal with smaller numbers and letters. Good luck.

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