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Lparker73
MMT Member
Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:13 am Posts: 6
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 New to running a LT, need some help.
I just got a Mud Buddy 25 hp Kohler long tail motor to put on my 1542 express all welded jon boat. I took it out today for the first time and was a little disappointed in the performance. With just me in the boat, I felt like I was only going around 10 mph and was having trouble planing out. I was expecting to run in the 20 mph range. A few things I noticed: RPM's were around 3800 at full throttle prop measures 8" diameter but unsure of the pitch. The cav plate seemed to be riding pretty far under the water.
Any suggestions as to why it did not go any faster/perform better? I have a 9x7 prop also. Should I try it? Thanks for the help.
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Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:21 pm |
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postalpaul
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:25 pm Posts: 1935 Location: Kaufman- TEXAS
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 Re: New to running a LT, need some help.
Yes on changing the prop to 9x7 adjust cav. Plate and it's a long tail ====no speed demon
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Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:34 am |
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indawoods
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:32 am Posts: 287
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 Re: New to running a LT, need some help.
that 8 inch prop is garbage. put the other one on IF it measures 9 inches and isn't worn down as well.
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Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:52 am |
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take'emgator
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:38 pm Posts: 10201 Location: SETX
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 Re: New to running a LT, need some help.
definitly a prop issue, not to many things to diagnose with a long tail
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Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:58 am |
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GSUrugger
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:41 pm Posts: 275
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 Re: New to running a LT, need some help.
X4 on the prop
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Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:24 am |
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Lparker73
MMT Member
Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:13 am Posts: 6
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 Re: New to running a LT, need some help.
Where should I start on adjusting the cav plate?
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Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:46 am |
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take'emgator
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:38 pm Posts: 10201 Location: SETX
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 Re: New to running a LT, need some help.
flare the end of it up a lil, it don't take much you can adjust it towhere you need it, it should ride just under the surface
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Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:53 am |
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Lparker73
MMT Member
Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:13 am Posts: 6
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 Re: New to running a LT, need some help.
Ok, I did read that if it is running too deep, to bend it down. Is that true?
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Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:16 am |
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take'emgator
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:38 pm Posts: 10201 Location: SETX
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 Re: New to running a LT, need some help.
Yes bend it down to move th propl closer to the surface and up to make the prop ride deeper
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Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:26 am |
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kibb
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:58 pm Posts: 2731 Location: Lafayette, LA
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 New to running a LT, need some help.
Change the prop before you start adjusting the cavitation plate. Sometimes they act differently with different props.
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Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:06 pm |
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pleg20
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Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:25 pm Posts: 11
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 Re: New to running a LT, need some help.
I have the same motor on a 1546 xpress and get the same speed as you. I'd like to know what prop you go with and how much it helps out.
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Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:26 pm |
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Bigbuckfever
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat May 28, 2011 11:18 pm Posts: 2114 Location: Slinger, WI
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 Re: New to running a LT, need some help.
Is it the right transom height/motor combo?
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Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:28 pm |
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Lparker73
MMT Member
Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:13 am Posts: 6
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 Re: New to running a LT, need some help.
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Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:32 pm |
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Bigbuckfever
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat May 28, 2011 11:18 pm Posts: 2114 Location: Slinger, WI
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 Re: New to running a LT, need some help.
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Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:59 pm |
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Lparker73
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Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:13 am Posts: 6
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Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:59 pm |
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PaleoHuntr
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:21 pm Posts: 1800 Location: Idaho Falls, ID
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 Re: New to running a LT, need some help.
Almost perfect.
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Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:05 pm |
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Lparker73
MMT Member
Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:13 am Posts: 6
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 Re: New to running a LT, need some help.
Ok so what RPM's are you guys runnimg these up to? My buddy has a Kohler 25 just like mine on a Go Devil frame and we took the boats out the other day his was running wide open at about 4600. I bumped mine up to 4200 and got a good increase in speed it seemed like, but what RPM should it be at wide open?
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:06 pm |
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Woodiebuster
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:00 pm Posts: 6060 Location: Choudrant, La
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 Re: New to running a LT, need some help.
He may spin it up to 4600 out of water, but I call B.S. on in the water.
With the 9x7 you should be somewhere in the 3800-4000 range empty.
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:42 pm |
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murray6236
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:34 am Posts: 63
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 Re: New to running a LT, need some help.
I agree. The governor kicks in at 4100 according to Coco. The prop is your problem. A 9x6 or 9x7 just depends on how much weight your going to pulling. I used to get 19 on a gd 24hp with a 9x7 in the summer fishing with light loads. The 6 is a little slower but you'll be able to get out of the whole faster with it loaded down. But still will do 15 or more depending on water conditions
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:03 pm |
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