I read this and ran right out and bought one. Gotta beat the rush...
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| Author: | rrmilner [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Start in Neutral Requirement by Coast Guard |
I heard that there is a new reg that just came out that will affect long tails. What does this mean? I can't seem to find any in depth info any where. It supposedly just came out a few months ago.... |
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| Author: | RootSumn [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Start in Neutral Requirement by Coast Guard |
Lift motor out of water before starting? |
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| Author: | craig [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Start in Neutral Requirement by Coast Guard |
I have a contact within the USCG that provided to me a copy of a letter sent to a mudmotor manufacturer just a few short months ago. Seems that while some were so involved with fabricating false accusations of one company's failure to follow federal regulation, they themselves were either "overlooking" or blatantly side-stepping regulations of the exact same code...and have been for quite some time. |
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| Author: | Karl Hungus [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Start in Neutral Requirement by Coast Guard |
I have no dog in this fight ( I'm not a dealer nor distributor) ...but here is a source of further reading. As a point of pure trivia, Carl Kiekhaefer (alias Crazy Carl the godfather of Mercury Outboards) had a "direct reversing" outboard in the late 1950's early 60's, Two-Strokes . It had a silent neutral , in other words, it would start and run either forwards OR backwards with "neutral" being the engine turned off. They are affectionately/accursedly called dockbusters for this weird characteristic. |
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| Author: | Robn1020 [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Start in Neutral Requirement by Coast Guard |
| Author: | craig [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Start in Neutral Requirement by Coast Guard |
Who said anything about the company not selling motors? And had I not shown proof of the letter, then that would have been a "swing and a miss." But I backed my claim with proof...that proof being the actual letter sent out by the USCG. I call that a 'swollen eye and busted lip.' |
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| Author: | Robn1020 [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:11 pm ] |
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| Author: | deltaduckmaster [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Start in Neutral Requirement by Coast Guard |
Robin has your airboat come in from BFE yet!! |
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| Author: | Robn1020 [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:15 pm ] |
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| Author: | Robn1020 [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Start in Neutral Requirement by Coast Guard |
§ 183.710 Start-in-gear protection required. (a) Any outboard motor which is capable of developing a static thrust of 115 pounds or more at any motor operating speed with any propeller or jet attachment recommended for or shipped with the motor by the manufacturer, must be equipped with a device to prevent the motor being started when controls are set so as to attain that thrust level,... A mercury switch installed on the motor prohibits the user from starting the motor when controls are set so as to attain 115 lbs of static thrust. Kinda hard to "thrust" when your motor's stickin' out da water. |
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| Author: | craig [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Start in Neutral Requirement by Coast Guard |
| Author: | SwampDonkey1 [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Start in Neutral Requirement by Coast Guard |
The way I read it, it seems like they are trying to findout how exptesive the issue is, which at the bottom asks to list the models that would not comply with the regs. No where does it say cease the sale of models that may not comply. |
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| Author: | craig [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:10 pm ] |
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| Author: | rrmilner [ Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Start in Neutral Requirement by Coast Guard |
I emailed a manufacturer and they said this: As of Aug 1st this year all mudmotors must comply with start in neutral regulations that apply to outboards. I hope this is not accurate because it will drive up the cost of Long Tails and I think a clutch would lower their power slightly. |
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| Author: | Quack Stackin [ Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Start in Neutral Requirement by Coast Guard |
Mud buddy sells one with a clutch the "slt" and haven't heard anything bad about them or any power loss for the few running them |
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| Author: | deadeyedick [ Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Start in Neutral Requirement by Coast Guard |
I read this and ran right out and bought one. Gotta beat the rush...
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| Author: | rrmilner [ Thu May 09, 2013 9:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Start in Neutral Requirement by Coast Guard |
I am going to start making long tail mud motors and selling them. Does anybody have any suggestions for where to source mercury tilt switches? (mine will be direct drive and not have a clutch, etc.) |
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| Author: | eljefe [ Thu May 09, 2013 10:40 am ] |
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| Author: | rrmilner [ Thu May 09, 2013 12:53 pm ] |
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| Author: | rrmilner [ Thu May 09, 2013 1:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Start in Neutral Requirement by Coast Guard |
Maybe I was not clear. I am looking for a mercury tilt switch that only allows you to start a motor when it is horizontal. |
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| Author: | txkingfisher [ Thu May 09, 2013 1:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Start in Neutral Requirement by Coast Guard |
he was laughing about getting in line for the mud buddy, not your tilt switch.... |
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| Author: | Karl Hungus [ Thu May 09, 2013 3:45 pm ] |
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| Author: | power731 [ Thu May 09, 2013 4:42 pm ] |
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Mercury switches will be done away with , bad for envornment like florrecent lamps. |
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