It is currently Sat Jul 05, 2025 5:19 pm




Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ] 
 Newcomer to the longtail game with a lot of questions. 
Author Message
New Member

Joined: Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:30 pm
Posts: 2
Post Newcomer to the longtail game with a lot of questions.
Like the topic says I am a newcomer to the longtail and I have a lot of questions. I have a 1652 Polar Kraft, with a 18 horse Johnson, I am selling the motor and am set on a longtail but there are so many missing links and this kid needs some instruction. So first off I can weld well so I was going to go with the Bog Hog U-Weld It Kit with a 25 horse Briggs. Seeing as the whole assembled kit will weigh over double the Johnson I am thinking of getting pods welded on and moving the tank and battery to under the front deck. Any suggestions or tips to update my plan of action? Any tips or suggestions welcome, Thanks!


Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:52 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member

Joined: Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:28 am
Posts: 179
Location: Central FL
Post Re: Newcomer to the longtail game with a lot of questions.
You should build yourself a hunt deck and put a 35 on it

_________________
16/42 crawfish skiff - 31GDLT


Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:05 pm
Profile
MMT F.E.
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:09 pm
Posts: 923
Location: North Central KS
Post Re: Newcomer to the longtail game with a lot of questions.
Forget the pods and bog hog kit... If you can weld build your own... do look into moving things to the front... other than that you are doing good, how tall is your transom? What shape is it in? Wood? and form of bracing on the transom?

_________________
1436 Lowe
-Workin for the man, Huntin when I can...-


Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:58 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:21 am
Posts: 2530
Location: Land of 10,000 Lakes
Post Re: Newcomer to the longtail game with a lot of questions.
Lots of guys have 23-24 hp longtails on boats that are 1644 etc. I wouldn't bother with the pods at all, I think they'll be a headache. The boat is plenty long and wide for that motor, just run your tank and battery to the front and roll with the longtail on the boat the way it is.

Just make sure your transom is sturdy.

_________________
"Two people in this world wear helmets, and that's dare devils and pussies." - Willie Braun


Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:17 pm
Profile
New Member

Joined: Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:30 pm
Posts: 2
Post Re: Newcomer to the longtail game with a lot of questions.
Thanks for the response. The boat is in the shop getting a tune up so I'm not sure but I'm guessing 16 inches+. If I had to rate it on 1-10 I would give it a 7. It shows signs of age but I don't see any signs of rot. I'm not sure if it has any sort of aluminum/steel center (never drilled it) but from what I could see it appears to be inch and a quarter think and braced by two triangular solid braces that are riveted along transom/hull. It seems pretty reliable.


Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:26 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:21 am
Posts: 2530
Location: Land of 10,000 Lakes
Post Re: Newcomer to the longtail game with a lot of questions.
If you need to you can beef it up with a board bolted to the transom.

_________________
"Two people in this world wear helmets, and that's dare devils and pussies." - Willie Braun


Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:34 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Sat May 28, 2011 11:18 pm
Posts: 2114
Location: Slinger, WI
Post Re: Newcomer to the longtail game with a lot of questions.

_________________
Every day I'm paddlin'
1848 Gatortail boat and 37 efi GTR.


Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:45 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:28 am
Posts: 1913
Location: Southland, New Zealand
Post Re: Newcomer to the longtail game with a lot of questions.

_________________
Quote:
We had a lot of hunters from down under. All a bunch of great guys that liked to drink, root, and shoot shit in the dark. My kind of people.


Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:27 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:32 pm
Posts: 112
Post Re: Newcomer to the longtail game with a lot of questions.
^^^^^^^^ This ^^^^^^^^^


Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:34 am
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:32 pm
Posts: 1490
Location: south Florida
Post Re: Newcomer to the longtail game with a lot of questions.
You might try the classifieds and locally to get a good used 23/25 LT. I would not opt for any pods. I recommend the 23 Briggs and 25/27 Kohler motors; both are workhorses and reliable. If you can afford it, buy new- the new mfg. BackH20 has a fine product! PolarKraft makes a fairly stout hull so you should be fine or beef it up like was posted. I've added steelflex to the hull bottom of my grizzly 1648 and that was well worth it. Keep us posted and good luck! Use the search feature on this site for more info!

_________________
Sailing in the sawgrass /1648 grizzly and Swomp 26.5 EFI


Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:21 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:32 pm
Posts: 112
Post Re: Newcomer to the longtail game with a lot of questions.


Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:46 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:32 pm
Posts: 1490
Location: south Florida
Post Re: Newcomer to the longtail game with a lot of questions.
deadeye, I bought the steelflex since it is a local product...five seasons only a couple of scrapes on it, still slick! The gallon was around 100$ but we did three 1648 hull bottoms with it. Of course, I don't run gravel, sand, jump beaver dams, etc. The sponsor on this site of some other material "gatorglide?" ( there is another called "frog spit" but reviews on that were mixed) apparently may be better than SF. It was fairly easy to prep, but my boat was newer than the other two hulls...even if you have to re-apply every three season it is worth it...by the way Grizzly, just so you know, the slick makes your hull really slippery- so you will have to keep the boat tied on the trailer as you back her in and when you pull her out of the water or it will slide right off the trailer. I still have carpet on my bunks but if you add those slick runners instead of the carpet it will be even easier to on/off trailer the boat. The slick will make you drift a bit in a turn- like an airboat, since this product was mfg. with that application in mind- but you learn to compensate. It really reduces friction when running in mud/grassy areas almost like a true flat bottom hull. The SF also does a good job of sealing any rivets (if your hull is riveted) too. A friend applied it on the bottom half of his LT, including the cavitation plate, and claims this helps him. If you share the slick it is a fairly cheap mod for your rig. The other cheap trick is to tweak the throttle advance to say, 4100 rpm out of the water, and realize a 1-2 mph gain right away with no damage to the motor.

_________________
Sailing in the sawgrass /1648 grizzly and Swomp 26.5 EFI


Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:01 am
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:32 pm
Posts: 1490
Location: south Florida
Post Re: Newcomer to the longtail game with a lot of questions.
deadeye, I bought the steelflex since it is a local product...five seasons only a couple of scrapes on it, still slick! The gallon was around 100$ but we did three 1648 hull bottoms with it. Of course, I don't run gravel, sand, jump beaver dams, etc. The sponsor on this site of some other material "gatorglide?" ( there is another called "frog spit" but reviews on that were mixed) apparently may be better than SF. It was fairly easy to prep, but my boat was newer than the other two hulls...even if you have to re-apply every three season it is worth it...by the way Grizzly, just so you know, the slick makes your hull really slippery- so you will have to keep the boat tied on the trailer as you back her in and when you pull her out of the water or it will slide right off the trailer. I still have carpet on my bunks but if you add those slick runners instead of the carpet it will be even easier to on/off trailer the boat. The slick will make you drift a bit in a turn- like an airboat, since this product was mfg. with that application in mind- but you learn to compensate. It really reduces friction when running in mud/grassy areas almost like a true flat bottom hull. The SF also does a good job of sealing any rivets (if your hull is riveted) too. A friend applied it on the bottom half of his LT, including the cavitation plate, and claims this helps him. If you share the slick it is a fairly cheap mod for your rig. The other cheap trick is to tweak the throttle advance to say, 4100 rpm out of the water, and realize a 1-2 mph gain right away with no damage to the motor.

_________________
Sailing in the sawgrass /1648 grizzly and Swomp 26.5 EFI


Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:01 am
Profile
MMT Pro Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:32 pm
Posts: 112
Post Re: Newcomer to the longtail game with a lot of questions.
Thank you.


Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:38 am
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 14 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 74 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to: