This would also be my first mud motor purchase so I am getting excited to play with a new toy!
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| Author: | jonesy16 [ Sat May 18, 2013 3:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Backwater 13hp on 14X36 |
Hey guys, my first post on here but I have been doing some searching and reading for a few months now and like what the site has to offer. I have a question that is eating away at me, should I go with the 13hp backwater for my 14x36 (the lite model that Lowe produced) Lowe or should I do the 10hp. I was told by the previous owner that it could handle it but I am just concerned about the weight, 175lbs. I want the hp but with out all the weight. Pods are out of the option because the boat is used for pulling over dikes, some dikes drop off faster then others, I'm afraid of to much weight being pushed on the pod when coming down the back side of a dike with a steep drop off to the water. It has custom runners and a lewis winch chain saw mount. Any input would be great. |
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| Author: | FRANKtheTAU [ Sat May 18, 2013 4:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ******* 13hp on 14X36 |
Are you saying Back Water? |
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| Author: | jonesy16 [ Sat May 18, 2013 9:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ******* 13hp on 14X36 |
Yes.... I am looking at the Back Water line up. |
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| Author: | FRANKtheTAU [ Sat May 18, 2013 9:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ******* 13hp on 14X36 |
That 13hp is the same engine block as the 23hp. And they both weigh the same. If you have plans to get a bigger boat in the future, I'd go ahead and get the 23. But if you plan on keeping that 1436 I believe the 10hp SWOMP LITE that they are building is a good motor in the right application. Call the guys at Back Water. You'll probably get a hold of Jake. He'll steer you straight. |
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| Author: | SouthernWake [ Sat May 18, 2013 10:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ******* 13hp on 14X36 |
Had a 13 on a 1436, good setup, then got a 20... Perfect. I think a lot of us started with a 1436 and 13 longtail |
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| Author: | forever draggin [ Sat May 18, 2013 10:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ******* 13hp on 14X36 |
Y is backwat er blocked out? |
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| Author: | FRANKtheTAU [ Sat May 18, 2013 11:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ******* 13hp on 14X36 |
I believe it has to do with Back Water Performance Systems from a while back. |
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| Author: | jonesy16 [ Sun May 19, 2013 3:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ******* 13hp on 14X36 |
Thanks for the responses. I was curious why it got blocked out too! My other question is if it is the same block, is the only difference the bore size?....seems like something should be lighter. I think the Mud buddy 12's weigh something in the range of 140 but I've talked to MB and they discontinued that model for now. I like the design of BW, they seem like a really solid set up, just trying to figure out my weight situation. |
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| Author: | jonesy16 [ Sun May 19, 2013 3:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ******* 13hp on 14X36 |
This would also be my first mud motor purchase so I am getting excited to play with a new toy!
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| Author: | FRANKtheTAU [ Wed May 22, 2013 9:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ******* 13hp on 14X36 |
The bore is a different size. I believe that's the only difference. The weight of the 13 and 23 are the same according to Back Water. With the weight being the same, I'd say spend the extra money and go with the 23. But, I really think 175 lbs is more than I'd want on a 1436. I'd go with the 10hp or get the 23 and make plans to get a bigger boat. I ran my 23hp on an old 1440 and it was squirrelly to say the least. I'm getting much more out of the motor with it being on a bigger boat. |
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| Author: | SouthernWake [ Thu May 23, 2013 8:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ******* 13hp on 14X36 |
I'm runnin a 20 vanuard on a 1436 with no problems, just reinforce the transom. |
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| Author: | TonyGMcElroy [ Sat May 25, 2013 11:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ******* 13hp on 14X36 |
Every 13hp I've seen was a single cylinder engine with gas tank attached. |
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| Author: | mud slinger 69 [ Sun May 26, 2013 6:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ******* 13hp on 14X36 |
^^ me to. Never seen a 2 cylinder 13 hp. The block is the same on the 16-18-23 all twin cylinders. If your bliuding a dike jumper stay as lite as ya can. |
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| Author: | jonesy16 [ Sun May 26, 2013 2:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ******* 13hp on 14X36 |
Well I ordered the 13....not completely paid for and not in yet so I can always switch to the 10hp but the dealer said it would be fine (of course he would he is the one getting paid). We will see how it goes, a lot heavier has been run on this boat by the previous owner and it seemed to have done fine. Here is the pic of the boat, the pic was taken by the previous owner. |
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| Author: | ds541 [ Sun May 26, 2013 9:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ******* 13hp on 14X36 |
looks like your putting together a boat to do some dyke pulling.you hunting at shiawassee? |
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| Author: | DuckHunter [ Sun May 26, 2013 9:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ******* 13hp on 14X36 |
I would listen to Frank. I have / had the same setup you've got and knowing what I know now with weight, performance and now looking to upgrade wish I would have gotten the 23. Hoping to get one by november |
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| Author: | wm [ Mon May 27, 2013 7:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ******* 13hp on 14X36 |
You should always buy the biggest you can afford I would buy tHe 23 hands down over the smaller size |
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| Author: | jonesy16 [ Mon May 27, 2013 10:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ******* 13hp on 14X36 |
Yes...it is a Shiawassee rig. |
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| Author: | ds541 [ Mon May 27, 2013 9:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ******* 13hp on 14X36 |
I've hunted that area for about 15 yrs,the key is balance not to hvy of a rig or one so small it takes forever to get around.the 40's can be a long ride if your motor is too small.the 13 hp for out there should be just about right. p.s did sk do the work on your boat? |
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| Author: | jonesy16 [ Tue May 28, 2013 6:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ******* 13hp on 14X36 |
Thanks DS and everyone else for the input. I want to keep it light but sadly the 13 is no feather. I figured the 10 would be under power with gear. Plus the dealer said he hooked the Mich. DNR up with a similar rig with the same motor and they loved it. Once I get it on and it works well, I'll have some pictures to come! |
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