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Author:  CZECHHOME [ Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:33 pm ]
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When is a longtail better then a surface drive ? I am getting a new motor and never own a longtail just thought i would ask thanks for any input..
Author:  da go get'er [ Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:56 pm ]
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Shallow water with a hard bottom and cypress/tupelo swamp. Also, anytime your crossing logs and get high centered.
Author:  Glades Ranger [ Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:33 am ]
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What da go get'er said., plus, you are the type of hunter that gets up earlier than most; you enjoy the ride not necessarily speed; you still have a rotator cuff; your idea of reverse is a good stout pushpole; you take sides, neutral is a no-no; you can always say "my shaft is longer than yours"; you are on tight budget and your wife has said no to a surface drive upgrade for the past two decades; you fancy yourself the master of a glorified lawnmower engine and enjoy driving standing up; you fancy yourself Bigfoot of the swamp and need a prop; you have limited mechanical skills and your reigning philosophy is KISS (keep it simple stupid); you are a stubborn s.o.b.... :mrgreen:
Author:  CZECHHOME [ Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:29 am ]
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:lol:
Author:  CZECHHOME [ Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:22 am ]
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Is a long-tail faster or slower ?
Author:  da go get'er [ Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:27 am ]
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Slower. Longtails are direct drives. 1:1 ratio. Most surface drives are around 2:1.
Author:  Kcpanages [ Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:35 am ]
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Long tail is the 4x4 of the swamp! Did deeper, has farther reach, has more turn radius when stuck, easier on shoulder, way cheaper on the pocket book!


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Author:  Swamper01 [ Sun Dec 21, 2014 5:27 pm ]
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Author:  Kcpanages [ Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:32 pm ]
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Author:  Swamper01 [ Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:28 pm ]
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Author:  Kcpanages [ Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:41 pm ]
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Author:  CZECHHOME [ Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:13 am ]
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We run in hard bottom not a lot of mud . We also run 75/25 shallow deep . I was just trying to get things right this time :lol: Can you mod a long tail like u do a surface drive
Author:  DmaxHunter [ Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:20 pm ]
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Lt is better for shallow hard bottoms, as for modding yes but being a 1:1 drive you won't gain speed but load caring ability will rise
Author:  WhoDat88 [ Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:33 pm ]
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Long tails are outstanding for many things but lack diversity. You can own a surface drive and it will do just about anything you want. It has the speed and ability to travel a long distance with out wearing you down.
Author:  Schmidty721 [ Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:23 am ]
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Author:  swamp_fox [ Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:15 pm ]
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Author:  LB200 [ Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:21 pm ]
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Ran a long tail for years and recently changed to a surface drive. So far I can not find one reason why I should miss the longtail. Unless, you count the cost because you can definitely pick up a nice used longtail for a heck of a lot cheaper than a SD.
If my LT was a 4x4 then the SD is a 6x6 with tracks because I go places I never thought of going before faster and easier!
Author:  rhock19 [ Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:08 am ]
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Schmidty, sd gears are smaller on top larger on bottom as you said. if you have 1.5:1 gearing, the prop turns 1 revolution to 1.5 revolutions of the engine. Hence the 1.5:1. So you can turn a bigger prop but slower(assuming a standard rpm). And yes about modding an lt. You can add more power to go up in pitch/dia on a prop, but it will take more to go up a pitch and turn it the same rpms as a size smaller because of the direct drive
Author:  stu [ Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:17 am ]
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Author:  stu [ Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:20 am ]
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Never mind, is see what your running.


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Author:  Glades Ranger [ Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:48 pm ]
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It has been said before but bears repeating- the surface drive is a better fit in most areas and as an upgrade, one should never have to go back to an LT. That said, in marshes with little water and hard bottoms ( little mud, no beaver dams, etc.) the LT shines- only outshined by an airboat...but those get very expensive to own and maintain and will get stuck too. I was hunting by myself last time out, fairly stiff breeze, and picking up decoys was made complicated but I've been using one long enough that I could trim and feather my 27 HP LT and make relatively short work of picking them up. For heavy loads and long distances a surface drive is the ticket and there expensive mods pay some dividends...I would not waste money on mods for my LT. It is not built for speed but it is a very reliable hunting tool. I usually hunt 2 at most in my boat, the distances are not long, and speed is not essential. I cannot justify nor want the expense of a surface drive. I apply any "mod" money to shotshells, hunting gear, and libation. My wife and I were at the store yesterday and I pointed to the Yeti cooler and told her I could buy another good quality pump for that price; my wally world improved Coleman cooler is doing fine. :mrgreen:
Author:  Schmidty721 [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:54 am ]
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