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Ghostly
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Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:21 am Posts: 89
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 round chimes vs square?
Alright guys my last post before I order my skiff... My last decision is rounded chimes vs square? 16' skiff with 23 longtail... My skiff will be aluminum Round bottom will be 16x36 Square will be 16x38
My question is will a square bottom slide with a longtail? I know they will with a outboard but from my little of experience long tails tend to not plane the hull flat like a surface drive an with the back drafting 3" Im guessing while running 20mph?, will the back still slide around?
Running rivers to get into the swamps 15 min rides But idling in 4-10" of flooded timber an cypress swamps An alot of hard bottom...an yes running slus an established trails in shallow swamps
Have at it guys!
Thanks to all
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: round chimes vs square?
square CHINE
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: round chimes vs square?
Unless you're planning on getting boat made that incorporates these somehow...
But I don't think those will affect turning.
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Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:53 pm |
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JD145
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Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:01 pm Posts: 1289 Location: SWGA
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 Re: round chimes vs square?
Lets not chine in unless we have something constructive to offer guys.
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Crews
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:07 pm Posts: 2260 Location: Lafayette
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 Re: round chimes vs square?
First of all, who ever said sliding was a bad thing to begin with?
Square chines go faster, carry a load better, and track at idle speeds waaay better.
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Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:48 pm |
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Ghostly
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Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:21 am Posts: 89
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 Re: round chimes vs square?
Chines chines chines Got it Thanks for the feed back on the CHINES so carry load better track better ...good so far
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Will
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 Re: round chimes vs square?
You won't be going fast enough for it to matter...
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mizzippi jb
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Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:14 pm |
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cb5331
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Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:17 pm |
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scarygary
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Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:20 pm |
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dem0001
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Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:49 pm |
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Russ
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Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:07 pm Posts: 4820 Location: West Monroe, LA
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 Re: round chimes vs square?
It's a longtail. Sliding is easy to control if you do happen to actually make it happen. Don't over think it, yall.
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Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:56 pm |
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Ghostly
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 Re: round chimes vs square?
So square chines all the way is what I'm getting so far.. As far as turning in deep water round an square will be what an what I'm figuring...?
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Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:05 pm |
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Will C
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Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:16 pm Posts: 2107 Location: Gladewater TX
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 Re: round chimes vs square?
Agreed^^ square chine. That skinny of a boat is gonna draft anyway
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lastchance
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Crews
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dem0001
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dead animal
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 Re: round chimes vs square?
guys, square vs round was started by some welder who wanted to make more money off his boats. it's a gimmick, just like a huntdeck. lol learn how to drive the boat and it won't matter. that little 16x38 is gonna carve a turn like a sports car either way.
good luck on whatever u choose.
the real question is why go 16' instead of 18' or 20'. lol
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Cajunwannabe
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 Re: round chimes vs square?
I could turn on a dime with my round chine GD hull and I can slide out of control with my hard chine wooden boat. There IS a difference. I want my boat to slide tho, learn how to control it and the advantages outweigh the cons.
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Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:52 pm |
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Ghostly
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 Re: round chimes vs square?
Cb5331 those are clearly tapered chimes you posted a picture of... I clearly asked about round chimes or square, not tapered.:p
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huck Finn
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Will
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North LA Hunter
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What are these chimes y'all speak of?
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longboman
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Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:46 am Posts: 47
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 Re: round chimes vs square?
Get a sq one. Then if its not what you thought round it off with a file.
HA hA couldn't resist!
I'm just getting into these things so its all new and fun for me. But on a serious note I would not worry about with a 23 longtail.
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cb5331
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 Re: round chimes vs square?
Unless its huck finn's 23 longtail.
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SETx Longtail
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Huck's 23 > all other 23's. Fact. He got the pixie dust mixture juuuust right on that thing.
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huck Finn
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 aww shucks , thanks guys. H Finn
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cb5331
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Glades Ranger
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Ghostly, whatever you get, slap plenty of gatorglide or steelflex on that, and slide like hell!
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Ghostly
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 Re: round chimes vs square?
Glade ranger, already got a g2 glide kit... it will be my 8th boat putting it on my personnel second... H fin, I keep reading bout your 23, on a light load how quick is it jw? R is it just that good in the skinny?
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NinjaButtpirate
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 Re: round chimes vs square?
I prefer rounded CHINE, rolls off of stumps pretty easy, doesn't bind up in veg near as bad, slides across the mud easier.... I know you know, long tails don't have the thrust a sd has.... So when turning in crazy stuff... Rounded is better... Just plain open water, square
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rob_E
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I prefer square chines.
All other things equal....a square chine boat will drafts fewer "s at rest and at WOT it also goes faster 99% of the time.
For me sliding while turning my 18 X 54 cc is never an issue.
Not saying it won't slide but again it is not a big deal once you learn how to drive your boat IMHO. B
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Ghostly
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 Re: round chimes vs square?
At 1 time I had a fiberglass flat with square bottom. It slid with a out board on it but I got use to it an worked the throttle to work the slide, it's a art like a motocycle in a curve, But I will soon see the diffrence as a guy that launches with me has a 38" round bottom 16 ' an I will have the same boat but square. I can see this leading up to batman vs superman senerio as we both will have 23hp longtails but mine will be a swomp! BTW never seen batman vs superman...
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