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I have a 10 week old black lab puppy I want to train to hunt. Anyone have any good websites/advice? I'm seeing lots of contradictory info on line about when to start, what to start with, etc. Right now, I'm just taking him to an open field and practicing retrieves every afternoon.

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This may get bashed because of his ties to mudbuddy but Freddy King has a pretty good info. He does live video of training just about every day. Lot of videos already plus you can follow a dog (Teets Life) all the way. There’s a Facebook page for members only. Chris Akin does live videos pretty regular. He gives away some pretty good prizes plus there are two seminars coming up in the next few weeks just for members. One in Sercey AR and the other at Chris Aiken’s place in Bono AR. All this and more included for just $60 a year. ( I kinda sound like a salesman) If your going to train yourself this is a good place. I’m training my first lab from this. Freddy has is also very active on the site. He answers a lot of questions. The official name is The Retriever Trainer.



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I wouldn’t stress to much right now. At this point it’s just a game. Cheap training sessions fun and short. Right now you are just trying to develop the love and bond with the pup. You want him to love it and boost his confidence as much as you can. You can introduce basic commands but before you get super serious let him get about 6 months old and have his mature teeth. That’s when you can begin with force fetch. Just have fun with it. If this is your first it will be an amazing ride to watch the bond and trust grow and then to see the finished gun dog is awesome.


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Thanks. I guess its worth adding that I'm in NE Georgia

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If your in northeast and have questions I would call Justin at southern way Retreivers. I have a dog there now. Awesome kennel and trainer he will answer any questions you may home.


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I will add keep sessions short and fun. You can work on basic commands and such but a pup doesn’t really get it until they are mature enough. Force fetching can start once the mature teeth come in. Mainly let them play and work on basic obedience. The obedience foundation will pay for itself when the real work beings.


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Freddy king’s “program” leaves much to be desired, and on top of that I was told by a local pro that he saw Freddy do some questionable things to a young dog at a test one time so I refuse to support him.

Rick stawski has arguably the most comprehensive program available to take a well bred dog to a high level. Mike Larry is in many circles the king, but his program has been known to be a little much for a dog that’s not in the top caliber.

Aiken’s program is decent, but he does skip some steps around FF and transition. I have seen his 3rd video but I doubt it would cover the post transition phase as well as stawski’s program. Aiken is a world class pro, I just didn’t like his videos as much.

For puppies, Jackie mertens sound beginnings is usually the go to.

There are “British” methods available (I.e. Milner) but I’m not a fan.

Invest and do it right, don’t skimp out on $80 worth of DVDs and settle with mediocrity for the next 10 years.



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Tom dolkens book is very good. I used it on my pup and trained her myself, and she isn’t perfect, but she goes get my ducks for me and is a joy to have hunting with me. Good luck buddy


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So a another pro dog trainer said he didn’t like what Freddy was doing to a dog. In other words he was mad that Freddy gives basically free dog training lessons and has brought together a community of other dog trainers. Many of which could could be considered pros themselves help you along the way if you have any trouble. Sounds to me like that pro was a bit jealous that Freddy has hundreds of replete members.
As for Chris Akin his list of titles speak for them selves.

But to each their on. You just get a lot for $60. I’m not fussing at you but I have learned not to believe a lot of stuff that I didn’t see my self. Kinda like some of the speeds that are posted on here.


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Man I didn’t mean to ruffle any feathers.

Yes this is my first dog but I am not ignorant of the situation. I watched some Larry, sound beginnings etc. I found it was easier to follow Freddy especially when I didn’t understand something I could get a hold of him and work through the issue.

I don’t really like the dvds because I don’t think it tells in detail enough info for a beginner. If you’ve trained several dogs it might make more sense.

If my dog gets off her first heat cycle I will be at Freddy’s free training day. I will get an up close look at what you talking about. I know it’s not the same as a hunt test but should be able to see how he treats a dog.

If there is any dog abuse going on I won’t support that either. I have seen some people beat their dog if they move while trying to teach honor.

As for buying training equipment. I have plenty. Several wingers, electronics and more bumpers than I actually need.

As I said I am a beginner and am not so proud that I do not listen to someone that may know a little about this topic than I do. You sound like you know quite a bit about all this. Im sure i could pick up some tips from you to.
I have just found what works best for me. Dog is progressing great and doing what I want her to. I had planned on starting FF but she went into heat. I don’t know if that would effect anything but I am going to wait.




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Somebody has a bit of a crush on that retarded ginger.

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I'd listen to the advice, I am. I have hunted with his dog many times, great dog, you'll forget he's there until needed.

That being said I am following mertins sound beginnings and then stawski. With some guidance from bluesky I have a 13 week old pup, doing pretty good. She's a high drive so extra work there but her retrieving is damn good for her age.

Take the advice, I have also watched freddy and get why some people might want to follow that. But ask yourself this do you want to gamble on how well your hunting partner turns out? I don't especially with the cost of a good bloodline.

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No crush. I run a Prodrive. Ha Ha.


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Sadly true.

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https://www.cornerstonegundogacademy.com/

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I don’t know what the fuck yall talkin about. Subaru’s are awesome cars.


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2 in 2 weeks. Who knew e-peens were so important.

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Crane I assume you prefer a block head then. I have watched some of their content, seems like they are decent guys, but at the end of the day I need a solid program to build on. So should I argue with you about American vrs British hmmm I think I'll just sit back.

Ps you have no idea what bluesky's dog is capable of, but then again I don't make allegations about things I don't see. Therefore your dog could be a future MH or a piece of shit, but without seeing I will not make assumptions.

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A Subaru has a bad ass AWD system X mode. I drive a 2018 Forester as a company vehicle and have driven around all kinds of trucks on construction sites so fuck ignorance. LOL

Another example of a village idiot that nobody knew about until the internet gave them access beyond their backyard.

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Them Subaru’s do have a mean 4wd, that’s fact lol


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lol this post got all kind of out of control

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It happens.

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^^ bruh :lol: :lol:


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