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Vikingdriver
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Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:26 pm Posts: 8
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 NEED HELP - upgrading to a Mudbuddy
I have a 1754 Grizzly Tracker with a 30hp Yamaha Jet. I would like to put on a Mudbuddy that can get the boat to 30mph with 4 guys and gear. Two questions. 1. What mudbuddy should I get and why? 2. Would flotation pods added to the back greatly help the performance?
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Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:55 pm |
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Woodiebuster
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Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:00 pm Posts: 6060 Location: Choudrant, La
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 Re: NEED HELP - upgrading to a Mudbuddy
I dont think its possible to get 4 people to that speed on a outboard hull, especially without a heavily modded motor.
What do you mean "what kind of mudbuddy"
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Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:01 pm |
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dog walker
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5282 Location: Meraux,La.
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 Re: NEED HELP - upgrading to a Mudbuddy
the biggest one they make because you are going to need it to try and reach those speeds with that load.
pods and surface drives are not a good match in most cases
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Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:06 pm |
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Vikingdriver
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Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:26 pm Posts: 8
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 Re: NEED HELP - upgrading to a Mudbuddy
What size Mudbuddy?
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Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:07 pm |
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Woodiebuster
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Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:00 pm Posts: 6060 Location: Choudrant, La
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 Re: NEED HELP - upgrading to a Mudbuddy
A stage 3 35 horse...
A timebomb waiting to explode.
Why are you wantin to go fast?
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(New Motor) viewtopic.php?f=5&t=54733 Stumps Fear Me
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Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:13 pm |
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Vikingdriver
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Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:26 pm Posts: 8
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 Re: NEED HELP - upgrading to a Mudbuddy
I am just tired of going 10mph with my Yamaha Jet. I want to cover some water. What engine do you recommend and how fast do you think it will propel 4 guys and gear in my 1754 Tracker?
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Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:20 pm |
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Woodiebuster
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Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:00 pm Posts: 6060 Location: Choudrant, La
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 Re: NEED HELP - upgrading to a Mudbuddy
You wont get max speed out of a tracker hull with a mudmotor but may beable to get it on step and run 20's with a modded motor. Look into the blackdeath series they are pushing.
Have you considered any other brands.. you can get the mods on any brand.
_________________ CSM Custom 18x42 Battleship with a 36 PD beating you to the hole My Rig (Old Motor) viewtopic.php?f=5&t=45193
(New Motor) viewtopic.php?f=5&t=54733 Stumps Fear Me
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Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:27 pm |
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RedlegHunter
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Joined: Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:00 am Posts: 30
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 Re: NEED HELP - upgrading to a Mudbuddy
The biggest motor Mud Buddy makes is the 7000. It is a modded 45Mag with dual carbs and Iron Mountain Heads. On that hull you could expect to get mid to high 20's with a 4 man hunting load as long as the bottom of the hull isn't hooked up. Don't think there is a motor out there modded or not with a warranty that will get you 30 or over with that heavy load and that hull.
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Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:31 am |
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Gigafowl
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:19 pm Posts: 6441 Location: Trinity Bay - Texas
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 Re: NEED HELP - upgrading to a Mudbuddy
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Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:52 am |
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daddymallard
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Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:36 pm Posts: 277
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 Re: NEED HELP - upgrading to a Mudbuddy
I just sold a grizz 1754 with a MB 4000 (35 w/mikuni and exhaust)....never could plane a 4 man hunting load. I could get 3 guys and 2 dogs up and run 20-22mph, add the 4th and it would plow, no matter where i distributed the load. Just ordered a brother breaux 1854 w/ 36pd and cant wait till he gets finished. Been there done that, take these guys word on getting a mud hull matched to the motor u wanna run!
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Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:23 am |
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HUNT4DEER
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Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:39 am Posts: 833 Location: DODGIN ROCKS ON THE RIVER OR CARS ON THE INTERSTATE
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 Re: NEED HELP - upgrading to a Mudbuddy
you may not get the speed you are looking for, but a 35 hp sd will tear that 30 jet a new one. you will still be able togo where the jet took you and more.
when i put my boat together it was built to run the shalow rocky river where jets run. i have a 23 mini on a 14x48. i ran with a friend that has a simular 14x48 with a 40 jet. i could run him over empty and run with him with wieght in my boat.
you may not get the max out of a 35 sd with that boat but it will proforrm alot better than the jet. my bro in law has a griz 16x54 with a 35 hyper sport. no gps but it moves very well. ide say the extra foot of boat would only help.
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Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:48 am |
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Team Camo
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Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
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 Re: NEED HELP - upgrading to a Mudbuddy
My last boat was a 1644 GD with a MB 4000. I could run 25-26 with 3 adults, 2 kids & 2 coolers. The boat will make a big difference.
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Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:37 pm |
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Labs4Life
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:01 pm Posts: 142 Location: Wisconsion
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 Re: NEED HELP - upgrading to a Mudbuddy
I am running and hd 4000 on the new 1851 excel f-4 me three guys hunting load i get 22-25 by myself i am almost hitting 30 bumpin 29! Me and another guy riding 25=27! but i have had it loaded right down 4 guys generator bows 12 gallon of gas lights platform would run 18-20 and still be on plain which was nice!
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Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:58 pm |
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Damon Silva
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:37 pm Posts: 287
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 Re: NEED HELP - upgrading to a Mudbuddy
Shitcan the whole rig you have and buy the right hull/motor combo!! If you want to haul that kinda load at them speeds the best way is dual motors. You can get in the 30+ mph range with 5 or 6 guys without having to modify the motors and have roughly the same money as you would have in a heavily modified single motor!
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Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:34 pm |
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dguidry
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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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 Re: NEED HELP - upgrading to a Mudbuddy
Hell, strap on one of those jet engines behind you in that avatar, Lt.
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Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:51 pm |
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deadbird8
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Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm Posts: 3833 Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
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 Re: NEED HELP - upgrading to a Mudbuddy
You got the answer in the first 2 replies.
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Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:51 pm |
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Duckman_61
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Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:19 pm Posts: 31 Location: Chasing Ducks and Geese in Iowa
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 Re: NEED HELP - upgrading to a Mudbuddy
I love this site!
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Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:30 pm |
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Duckman_61
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Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:19 pm Posts: 31 Location: Chasing Ducks and Geese in Iowa
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 Re: NEED HELP - upgrading to a Mudbuddy
viking driver, what are you planning to hunt?
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Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:41 pm |
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Midnight Sun
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Joined: Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:03 pm Posts: 215 Location: quitman tx
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 Re: NEED HELP - upgrading to a Mudbuddy
sell wut u got and start fresh u wouldn't believe how many guys we pull off sand bars and mud flats tryin to run sd on ribbed hull boats they just dont preform
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Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:59 pm |
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