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VooDoo Daddy
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Joined: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:55 pm Posts: 2005
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 Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
Two things about trailering.
Has anyone done anything to better help launch and retrieve boat in shallow water or with a landing that has very little angle to it. Maybe like rollers on the back after the bunks. Or any suggestions.
And the second, when retrieving the boat and putting it on the trailer, I want to have my side guides higher so I can put the trailer back in the water further. If I put the guilds under the water (just the last foot of them , even if you hit it straight on, it will sometimes blow to the side on the edge with the wind or in some cases current. Anyone modified their trailer in for that?
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Will
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Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:54 pm Posts: 8133
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
Teflon bunks or gatorglide, the trailer bunks don't even have to be in the water then...
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Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:22 am |
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VooDoo Daddy
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:55 pm Posts: 2005
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
was this on unloading or loading or does it matter? You can load it up with the trailer that much out of the water?
My bunks are rubberized. I may have to try gator glide.
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txkingfisher
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:09 am Posts: 1121 Location: SETX
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
RUBBERIZED???? Like truck bed liner type of shit? Get new bunks with carpet and some GG on your hull.....
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VooDoo Daddy
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:55 pm Posts: 2005
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
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txkingfisher
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:09 am Posts: 1121 Location: SETX
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
Yeah, get rid of that shit fast. Either take a grinder and buff it off the bunks and carpet over the bare wood, or get new bunks with carpet. Water will eventually get under that rubber and rot the wood so just carpeting over it as it is now wouldnt do yourself any favors.....
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Captchaz
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Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:47 pm Posts: 4183 Location: Cut Off,LA
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
Not sure what kind of trailer you have but the older ones have the pin you pull put and the trailer will tilt to help when you have none or a lil water..
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txkingfisher
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Joined: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:09 am Posts: 1121 Location: SETX
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
Yeah, what Chaz said!
Also, Chaz, your deckboards will suffer the same fate as VD's trailer bunks.
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Captchaz
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
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txkingfisher
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Joined: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:09 am Posts: 1121 Location: SETX
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
Yeah, I was talking about the crewboat. Mostly just trying to start some shit with you though. They look good painted, but they rot faster.
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Will
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Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:54 pm Posts: 8133
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:06 pm Posts: 6584
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Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:33 am |
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txkingfisher
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Joined: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:09 am Posts: 1121 Location: SETX
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
The carpet wont trap the water like the rubber will. It can dry out between launchings.
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
Ok it sure will eat through the bottom of ur boat though
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
The best thing to do is put plastic over ur boards
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bmartina
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Joined: Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:27 pm Posts: 641 Location: Apalachicola Fl
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
Silicone spray for your bunks cheap and easy fix
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rob_rides_03
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Joined: Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:31 pm Posts: 202 Location: NJ
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
I use a second Hand winch attached to the post on the trailer with the line run through a snatch block chained to one of the beams on the rear of the trailer. Hook it up to the bow eye and it cranks the boat right off the trailer. Works well. I also used old fire hose on the bunks which helps a lot.
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
Gator glide and u can push it off with one hand and mine is 18\60
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Kmoppert
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Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:48 pm Posts: 2006 Location: Baton Rouge, LA
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
To the OP, regardless of tricks with your bunks, gator glide, etc. see if there is room for you to mount your leaf springs under the axle rather than them sitting on top. That will lower your entire trailer/boat height by roughly 4" which makes a big difference when launching shallow water or a not-so-steep decline.
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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txkingfisher
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Joined: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:09 am Posts: 1121 Location: SETX
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
^^This^^
Also you could make your own lowrider trailer with torsion spring spindles pretty easy.....
Just weld them on up high somewhere....
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willett
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:22 am Posts: 1764 Location: Tyler, TX
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
The "lowering" of trailer is best option overall but be careful with a GTR and trailering bracket.
I've seen some leave my shop with low trailer or even too tall of hitch height and tell them I hope you don't go over a lot of dips or uneven roads because I can see the skeg scraping pavement.
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VooDoo Daddy
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Joined: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:55 pm Posts: 2005
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
Thanks for all the replies, very helpful, lots to think about. Gator Glide will be something I will do in the fall, probably after I get through my busy season. And I may cover the bunks with silcone or the fire hose (where can you get some of that?) I like the second winch idea if I did not gator glide it soon, would take only a few minutes to install and not that much money.
On the tilting trailer, I do not have one of those. But that would be helpful.
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CootSlayerRMFT
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Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:53 am Posts: 7565 Location: Prairieville, LA
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
Gator Glide is all you need to do. You will also then see the real benefits of GG. The trailer thing is just an added benefit. Trust me!
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Bigrich
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Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:52 pm Posts: 7064 Location: Mallard country
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
GG is slick for sure! First time I have been able to just drive my boat right up on trailer on a steep ramp. And boards were not in water. Had to get gf to hook hand winch up bc boat would not stay! Highly recommend!!
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Over the LINE
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Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:22 am Posts: 535 Location: New Orleans
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
You don't need higher side guides ("drunk boards" is what I call them) just make them longer. I have 6' guides on my 17' boat and they don't go all the way to the transom. Always some of them out of the water.
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CootSlayerRMFT
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Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:53 am Posts: 7565 Location: Prairieville, LA
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
I had my welder at work build some pipe guides for me last week. I like them way better than guide boards! I set them tight so the boat can't slide far side to side when I'm trailering it too. I made the steel pipes 2' tall and the PVC pipes that slide over them 4'. I'm going to cut the PVC down to 3' or less though because I never back the bunks in the water, due to the GG. I'll post a pic tomorrow if you'd like.
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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CootSlayerRMFT
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VooDoo Daddy
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Joined: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:55 pm Posts: 2005
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
Coot, yes, post some photos, thanks.
Thanks to all that responded too.
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MNGunner
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
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RoyBoy10
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Buzz Killington
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SwampDonkey1
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Joined: Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:09 pm Posts: 923 Location: North Central KS
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
Not sure if this is what you're lookin for but I took a piece of square tubing that would slide into the main tongue of the trailer and selded the coupler on to it then I drilled holes for a pull pin through both the outside and inside tubing in a "pulling" position (coupler close to the end of the square tubing) and another hole in the inner tubing closer to the end. By doing this I am able to extend the tongue of the trailer by 10 ft or so if needed to get the boat out far enough to get into the water. Ill see if I have some photos to post later.
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:42 am |
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i screwed UHMW to the bunks and i removed the 13 inch wheels an dput on 8 inch glof crt wheels takes some effort but way easier getting on and off in the mud a friend of mine did the same but he installed rollers on top of the bunks and wow he just simply lines up hits the gas in reverse and hits the breaks and presto in the water and when done he has a winch on his trailer he just pulls it back up with and im talking a twin screw 2060 prodrive not alittle boat
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CootSlayerRMFT
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mud4fun
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Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:45 am Posts: 61
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
Thanks posting that Coot, that's what I'm gonna do
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VooDoo Daddy
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Joined: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:55 pm Posts: 2005
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 Re: Trailer Mods for Guides and Shallow Water
Thanks Coot for posting photos. I did not see this until now, while I was using search for something else.
I looked at the bunks, I thought they looked like rubber, but after looking at them closer they are plastic that sort of look like rubber. I had to thump them to make sure.
I also saw a trailer that has some bunk extension on the back. They looked like covered aluminum on edge rather than flat that were angled at what looked like a 45 degree right behind the bunks. So if you were in a situation where there was no or not much landing incline it would just angle it up tot he bunks. Looked like they were only about a foot long each. I think there were 4 of them.
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Kmoppert
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cr244
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