Anyone looking into or have used them?
From what I have seen they get 1700 fps. Fasest that I know of out there.
Should cut your lead down a good bit?

They were just released this summer/fall. I'm gonna try some to see how they are. 1700fps is pretty fast. I think they will be too expensive though. Starting price is $20/box.

They not that bad case price at cabelas was 180 think you may be able to find them cheaper online or at wally world

I do like their animation. Also that is the 887 in the video.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf68B04aUFA[/youtube]

DAM good commercial... Do you have to have a special choke for this stuff? Like you do with Black Cloud?

i'd buy some after the commercial

Think iam cona stay with the black clouds. rather have a good sold pattern than just have them go fast. not knockin it before i try it. just what works 4 me.

I don't know if anyone else had felt that the black clouds were dirty but I did

Most fed shells are dirty even the target loads, but there still a good company all around quality. I shot a exterma 2 with a pattern master made 4 the bc shells, now i shot a o/u browning with carlson bc chokes now. the carlsons seem 2 be a better tubes 4me. Dam auto loader kept fallin apart every year. went back 2 rem 870 and o/u brownings.

189 a case for 3" from rogers with FREE shipping and no sales tax. I have not tried them

GO buy you some kent faststeel. I believe that is the best shell on the market. Iv seen it shot out of a few different guns and they pattern great

I still shoot lead shot.

Winchester AA trap loads for me.They are devistating on decoying birds.

We have used Winchester Xpert 1625 3.5" BB for geese for several years. Absolutely killer shell. I bought a box of the Hypersonic 3" BB 1 1/4oz loads to test.

IMO it's a great load for 3" guns. The pellet count is close to the 3.5" shell. The velocity is higher and I think a Mod or a touch tighter will work best in most guns. I did try a steel full in my 3" 870 with 28" barrel and got a 95% pattern. It was very "clumpy" and did leave some holes. I'd rather see a larger circle with better pellet distribution. Esp. with BB size shot. Doesn't take many of those to kill a bird.

Two days from right now I should have some field info on how it beats down resi. geese.

I would NOT recommend shooting BB steel through anything tighter than a Steel Full. 1. There's a good chance you will bulge your choke or stretch the choke ruining the threads and the barrel. 2. Usually steel will reach a point of maximum constriction and bounce the pellets out causing a "blown pattern".

I don't shoot BB. I usually stay #2 or #4. But what you mention is good info. Right now I have a rem mod in my 887.

Seen a guy on YouTube pattern it and was impressed. Don't know what gun or even gauge, or what size shell or shot but..patterns from 20-60 yards was nice

damaged choke/barrel. It was a factory modified choke,it bulged the choke and forked the barrel. I can put a new one in and at the end of season its has expanded and will not fit in another barrel. It still throws a good pattern. I used to just drop in a new carlsons when season would open.