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KJH
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Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:09 pm Posts: 520 Location: Nebraska
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 My needs... which boat?
I'm going to get a new boat to put with my stock 35GTR... the problem is I can't figure out which one to get. Hopefully you can help and make a recommendation. Here are my needs/desires.
• 17 or 18 ft. Prefer 18 ft • 54 inches wide • 20” transom • Minimum 24” sides. 26-28" preferred. • Modified “v” front to cut the rough water and waves. • Flat bottom (no ribs/runners) • Tapered chine • Floatation in the floor and sides • 24 inch front platform (or none at all). The shorter the better. • Full floor • .100 aluminum • All welded • No benches • Level across the gunnels from bow to stern
As open of floor plan as possible (very important!!!). I routinely break up to 3 inches of ice with the boat. It is not uncommon for me to run very rough water with 2-3 foot swells. I want the boat to be a light as it can be (no extras as they weigh too much). I haul a lot of stuff and a ton of weight. I hate boats with a front deck platform, as it just takes up usable space. It will have a soft sided PopUp blind on it during the hunting season. I do not run stumps or veggies, just shallow water with sand and some catails. I really like the bow deck style of the Beavertail boats, and the transom type of the new Excel F4.
Any ideas? My guess is that I'm stuck with having a boat built for me.
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Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:38 pm |
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Barroll
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Joined: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:19 am Posts: 932 Location: Georgia
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 Re: My needs... which boat?
Having a boat built for you would be the best way to get exactly what you want but i dont know if any builders will build you a mod-v hull. From your description you pretty much described an excel but they dont offer many custom options. I believe that bevertail are flat bottom boats, not actually a mod-v, but i may be wrong.
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Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:59 pm |
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WestEndAngler
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Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:11 am Posts: 9143 Location: Houston | Surfside
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 Re: My needs... which boat?
Call the guys at Gator-Tail that's pretty much my boat you described minus the V
I have flotation in my hunt deck & 2 rear pods which I sit on...Also flotation in the bow. I fish West Bay and 2-3' waves are not uncommon she handles the waves great at 60... I can put 2 people on my bow so if your thinking about poling or fishing from your boat look into an 1860 I love mine.
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KJH
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Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:09 pm Posts: 520 Location: Nebraska
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 Re: My needs... which boat?
Thanks.
It does sound like an Excel... but the platform up front takes up too much room. I have been planning on getting the F4 but I'm rethinking it now because of the front platform size.
The front platform is just wasted space for me as I won't be poling or anything like that and is why the Beavertail boats without platforms are attractive to me.
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Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:41 am |
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WestEndAngler
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Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:11 am Posts: 9143 Location: Houston | Surfside
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 Re: My needs... which boat?
If you take a look at mine everything is removable in under 30 seconds... My large ice chest (120Q Yetti) doubles as my casting platform / gigging platform during the summer & fall months
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Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:45 am |
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KJH
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Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:09 pm Posts: 520 Location: Nebraska
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 Re: My needs... which boat?
WestEndAngler,
Can you remove the platform up on the bow?
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Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:22 am |
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autogateman
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Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:32 pm Posts: 4036 Location: Gonzales La
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 Re: My needs... which boat?
I would consider going heavier than .100 thick, especially if you breakin ice with it.
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Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:43 am |
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WestEndAngler
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Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:11 am Posts: 9143 Location: Houston | Surfside
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 Re: My needs... which boat?
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Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:56 am |
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KJH
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Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:09 pm Posts: 520 Location: Nebraska
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 Re: My needs... which boat?
I hear what you're saying about the ice... something to consider for sure.
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Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:00 am |
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KJH
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Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:09 pm Posts: 520 Location: Nebraska
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 Re: My needs... which boat?
WEA_
I'm talking about the platform up on the bow area or your boat where the trolling motor is located. It looks like your is about 3-4ft from the tip of the bow back. Can that be removed?
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Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:03 am |
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WestEndAngler
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Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:11 am Posts: 9143 Location: Houston | Surfside
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 Re: My needs... which boat?
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Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:14 am |
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Woodiebuster
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Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:00 pm Posts: 6060 Location: Choudrant, La
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 Re: My needs... which boat?
If you ever get that sucker stuck, its gunna be stuck like you aint seen latley!
A mod-v will also hurt your shallow water performance.
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Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:10 pm |
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KJH
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Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:09 pm Posts: 520 Location: Nebraska
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 Re: My needs... which boat?
What do you mean about getting it stuck?
I can live with a little less shallow water performance. As long as I can run in 12-15 inches of water, I'll be happy.
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Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:49 pm |
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Robn1020
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Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:09 pm Posts: 4232 Location: Cypress, TX
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Woodiebuster
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Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:00 pm Posts: 6060 Location: Choudrant, La
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 Re: My needs... which boat?
he says "some cattails"
Sounds like he needs a 60 outboard, a jackplate, and some balls.
A stock 35 will be a turd with heavy loads like you are sayin, you would need mods or duals.
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Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:52 pm |
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KJH
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Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:09 pm Posts: 520 Location: Nebraska
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 Re: My needs... which boat?
A jet doesn't work... been there, it was a $5000 mistake. Way too much sand.
A longtail didn't work for me either as a 5+ mile ride was slow and a pain to drive.
Outboards work, but I'm limited to where I can go. I agree, an outboard sounds best but I've done that twice and and it gets too shallow even with a jackplate. With the outboard I have to worry about hitting something. That was an expensive mistake too.
I use a surface drive mud motor so that I can run when it gets shallow. It goes from deep water to a few inches where I run. I've been using a 35GTR on a 1754 Excel with 24" sides since 2007 and it always gets me where I'm going with no worries. I don't have to worry about hitting something and ruining my lower unit. I've been happy with the combination of attributes I get with the mud motor.
I've just been looking for a different boat where I can have more room and haul more stuff. I'm out of room with 8 dozen duck floaters, 4 dozen goose floaters, a bag of 6 dozen goose sihlouettes, a dog, three guys, blind bags, blind, stove, heaters, etc. I went to pulling a trailer boat and it works OK, but its a pain. I agree it isn't fast with that load, but I can always get where I'm going via the shortest route. I love my motor, I just need to get more useable space in the boat.
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Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:15 pm |
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Barroll
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Joined: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:19 am Posts: 932 Location: Georgia
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 Re: My needs... which boat?
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WestEndAngler
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Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:11 am Posts: 9143 Location: Houston | Surfside
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 Re: My needs... which boat?
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marshstomper
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Joined: Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:40 am Posts: 7
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quackconsumer
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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 Re: My needs... which boat?
Call Gator-Tail and talk to dem bout an 18'x54" with out the extended front deck. They can also build one with a mod v in the bow fading to a flat bottom.
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Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:06 pm |
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austinabear
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Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:15 pm Posts: 238 Location: Port Neches, SETX
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 Re: My needs... which boat?
Southfork makes an excellent boat and they make them exactly what you're talking about. southforkboats.com
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Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:52 am |
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KJH
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Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:09 pm Posts: 520 Location: Nebraska
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 Re: My needs... which boat?
I'll check it out. Thank you.
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Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:39 am |
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saveontaxes
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Joined: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:16 am Posts: 400
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 Re: My needs... which boat?
Look at a G3 Just sold my 1756 wof, they have an 1860 w/ 24" sides, or 1966 w/ 28" sides, WOF wide open floorplan, under outfitter jon's on there website, may be what you are looking for. Dealer over at I-29 & hwy 2
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