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Buzz Killington
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 Beretta A400 Pattern Results
Seeing the 'Beretta Shooters' thread I decided to do some independant testing on my own a few days ago. The A400 is new to me - so I wanted to see how it performed.
I'll link it on ^^ that thread.
Heres the conditions:
At a local range - "The Bunker" 20ft walls either side - 1 mph wind at the most.
All shots were done from a table with the gun resting on sandbags to ensure the gun was locked in the same place for each shot.
I noticed it shot a bit high from the bead - but the results were pretty good.
Steel Shot 3" Kents, Experts, and Federal Bluebox
the results:
A400 with factory IC at 25yds: 3" #4 Kent 1-1/4oz = 74% pellets on a 4x4" board 3" #4 Win Expert 1-1/4oz = 69% ^^ - lots of clusters. 3'' #4 Federal Blue 1-1/4oz = 74% ^^
A400 with Factory MOD at 40yds: 3" #4 Kent 1-1/4oz = 77% pellets on a 4x4' board 3" #4 Win Expert 1-1/4oz = 71% ^^ 3'' #4 Federal Blue 1-1/4oz = 80% ^^ - pretty happy with this one.
A400 with Kicks HF MOD at 40yds: - a MUCH more uniformed pattern for all shots. 3" #4 Kent 1-1/4oz = 80% pellets on a 4x4' board 3" #4 Win Expert 1-1/4oz = 71% ^^ 3'' #4 Federal Blue 1-1/4oz = 83% ^^ - this was a nice uniform pattern - looked great on the paper.
A400 with Kicks HF FULL at 40yds: 3" #4 Kent 1-1/4oz = 85% pellets on a 4x4' board - great pattern 3" #4 Win Expert 1-1/4oz = 76% ^^ 3'' #4 Federal Blue 1-1/4oz = 89% ^^ - great pattern - not as uniformed as with MOD - few clusters
That was a fun day at the range - this^^ took me almost 6 hours.
Counting holes and comparing it to the shells holdings.
I'd be interested if someone else had done something similair - post up if you did.
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Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:32 am |
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OwenDickeson
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 Re: Beretta A400 Pattern Results
Well, so from the Kicks chokes at 40 yards, do you like the MOD or the FULL?
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Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:51 am |
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Buzz Killington
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 Re: Beretta A400 Pattern Results
Personally - I like the MOD.
The full was pretty good but the MOD just looked better all around.
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Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:55 am |
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Will
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Great work, a good pattern beats a tight pattern any day. Too full and steel shot bounces off each other throwing an irregular pattern.
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Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:00 pm |
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Buzz Killington
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 Re: Beretta A400 Pattern Results
Do I think the kicks is significantly better than factory?
Yes. - But I can only compare the MOD vs MOD Kicks.
The Factory IC worked fairly good itself.
The patterns the Kicks MOD threw were quite uniform - little to no clusters - which is what you want =)
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Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:01 pm |
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Buzz Killington
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@ 3CK
I think i'll be using Federal Blue box from now on. They seem to pattern quite well.
I'm going to test Challengers by end month.
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The Legend
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I wonder if this would be comparable on shells like black clouds, hevi-metal, etc?
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brasso
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so what im gaining from all of this... Kent is the best shell for the money?
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OwenDickeson
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I always shot well with the cheap federals, but they were so damn dirty. I'm on Kent's this year.
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Buzz Killington
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tchauvin
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 Re: Beretta A400 Pattern Results
I have to say,,,,The kicks is something you can feel confident buying and it works as intended.
I had pretty close to the same results on my SX3 with kicks full. I will be switching to modified though, as i never usually shoot full choke. I may do a comparison from kicks full to modified.
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dog walker
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Quick question, so that is pattern percentages from a 4x4' sheet of paper not what's inside a 30" circle on the paper?
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Blackcloud 3.5 #4s cover a entire 40" circle at 40 yards
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Buzz Killington
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So did Challenger #2 and #4 today.
When I count them I'll let you guys know the results. They look pretty good!
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Buzz Killington
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So to bump this with my end season Canada results:
I killed 96 ducks this season. A personal best. My boat saw a total of 177.
The A400 is by far my favorite shotgun I have ever used.
The Kicks HF MOD with kent and Speed shock were outstanding but my lean mean diver killer loads were the Kicks high flyer FULL with 3" 1-3/8oz Challengers.
13 species of ducks for me
And thus concludes my Canada season.
See you guys in Florida next week =)
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#2's challengers^
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Maybe good place to post but my A400 is starting to have problems. Shot about 2 cases throw it now. It will fire eject load and fail to fire again sometime on the 2nd shell. I tore whole gun down and clean it spotless and did it again yesterday. Anyone had this problem and came up with a cure?
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If it's failling to fully chamber the 2nd round then its hanging up on the ejector. Its got a rough cast finish and catches the rim of shell. Remove and polish it. They also have an updated follower for them. Usually only happens with 3 1/2" shells
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Buzz Killington
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0 problems with mine
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