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banded-mallard
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4310
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 Has anyone added cup to their prop
Man I'm searching threads and can't find anything. Was wondering if anyone has tried to add cup to a prop. I'm not interested in how it performs in the mud. This would strickly be for open deep water runs. Trying to see if I can get a little more on top for some long runs.
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Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:48 am |
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butternut
MMT F.E.
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:30 am Posts: 770 Location: EAST ARKANSAS
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 Re: Has anyone added cup to their prop
Ask La prop.
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Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:10 pm |
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Zeek569
MMT Addict
Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:25 am Posts: 668 Location: Where the mud flats are
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 Re: Has anyone added cup to their prop
My experince the more pitch/cup you put the more top end you loose
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Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:36 pm |
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dguidry
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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 Re: Has anyone added cup to their prop
More pitch= better in mud = less top end speed
Just had my prop reworked to build up and add little pitch. Lost top end but pulls like a tank.
Vibration increased a bit too. Gonna have it reworked to take out some pitch to happy compromise.
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Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:57 pm |
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btmannin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:25 pm Posts: 1723 Location: Oxford/Jackson ms
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 Re: Has anyone added cup to their prop
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Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:12 pm |
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dguidry
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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 Re: Has anyone added cup to their prop
_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:22 pm |
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btmannin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:25 pm Posts: 1723 Location: Oxford/Jackson ms
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_________________ 1436 tin can shoved by a 16 GDLT 16.5x48 running like hell from a built 40 merc
Well they call me king turd up here on shit mountain, but if you want it you can have the crown.
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Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:28 pm |
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calphil
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:49 pm Posts: 1715 Location: Kingwood,TX
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Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:32 pm |
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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 Re: Has anyone added cup to their prop
I re-cup them all the time and I also rebalance. They are great for getting the grunt and hole shot back, but they do lack on the top end a couple mph.
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Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:28 pm |
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DmaxHunter
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:21 pm Posts: 2207 Location: North Alabama
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 Re: Has anyone added cup to their prop
I just la prop add cup and pitch to a damaged big blade, fast turn around. Prop looks great, haven't run it as blind is being built.
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Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:25 pm |
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banded-mallard
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4310
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 Re: Has anyone added cup to their prop
Don't need anymore hole shots with this torque monster. Looking to give a little low end for some top.
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Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:48 pm |
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calphil
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:49 pm Posts: 1715 Location: Kingwood,TX
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 Re: Has anyone added cup to their prop
I'd say repitch ,
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Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:38 pm |
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StevefromAR
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:52 pm Posts: 55
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 Re: Has anyone added cup to their prop
I've recupped outboard props with a 3 pound shop hammer-lay the blade over the ball of your trailer hitch. Rebalance by laying the prop hub down on a flat surface and measure the distance from each blade to the surface. Works surprisingly well on stainless and aluminum. Don't see why I can't do my long tail prop but haven't tried it yet.
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Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:54 pm |
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Howdy
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:50 am Posts: 359
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 Re: Has anyone added cup to their prop
I'd imagine you would a big Damn hammer to bend mm prop
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Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:02 pm |
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pokey79
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:50 pm Posts: 2282 Location: Circumcised, Louisiana
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 Re: Has anyone added cup to their prop
viewtopic.php?f=41&t=49758theoretically adding heavy cup is like adding 1'' of pitch im about to send another one to baggy to get balanced and had heavy cup only!
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Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:23 pm |
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duckduckboom
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:33 pm Posts: 5603 Location: Corner of Hell an high water, La
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Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:59 pm |
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Bug
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:28 am Posts: 1068 Location: Tallahassee, Fl
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Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:45 pm |
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cupped up
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:25 pm Posts: 4205 Location: St. Amant, LA
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Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:54 pm |
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Waterfowl_Widowmaker
MMT Member
Joined: Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:37 am Posts: 28 Location: North East, Alabama
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 Re: Has anyone added cup to their prop
I recupped mine I welded around the edge and just kept building it up then just grinded and sanded it smooth. Just got to try to make it even on both side and balance it out. Mine worked great and didn't vibrate a bit and holds up good I've been running it for a while now and can't complain.
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Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:38 am |
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LA Prop
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:31 pm Posts: 1008
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 Re: Has anyone added cup to their prop
adding pitch will not make it grab harder in the mud adding cup will like bayou boy said itll give u the low end grunt but youll loose a little on the top end
dguidry i added alot of cup to yours thinking your mods would be enough to swing it ill take some out and rebalance it for u as soon as i get it send it with tony or ryan if u can
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Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:24 pm |
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LA Prop
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Joined: Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:31 pm Posts: 1008
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pooldoo73
MMT F.E.
Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:47 pm Posts: 886 Location: Plaquemine
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 Re: Has anyone added cup to their prop
U need to look into a different prop. A couple guys have had some open water props that were impressive on speed. Think chopper prop, not mm prop.
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Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:06 pm |
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pnut
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:11 pm Posts: 97
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Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:11 pm |
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dguidry
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:33 pm |
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LA Prop
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Joined: Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:31 pm Posts: 1008
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 Re: Has anyone added cup to their prop
They do not make them the guys were buying a chopper and broaching an outboard prop I think hill was selling them...
Also I've been adding a lil pitch to some props that r a little worn and we've been having good results but for nodded motors never tried anything like that on a stocker.
Also I've been noticing that the gtr 2 blade with light cupping is hard to turn even with a modded motor
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Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:13 am |
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ajverret
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Joined: Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:33 pm Posts: 645 Location: New Iberia, La
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 Re: Has anyone added cup to their prop
I may come swing by in a couple of weeks when I get in from offshore to see if can straighten one of me ears up it's got a slight bend about an 1 1/2" from the tip
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Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:37 am |
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LA Prop
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Joined: Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:31 pm Posts: 1008
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 Re: Has anyone added cup to their prop
Roger that pal I'll be waiting
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Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:57 am |
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Buddy
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Joined: Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:06 am Posts: 579 Location: Tallahasse, FL
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Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:04 am |
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banded-mallard
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4310
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 Re: Has anyone added cup to their prop
Got prop back from Baggy. Wanted to add 3" of pitch. When it arrived, the paper work said 15p but the prop has 16p on it. Can't get him till tomorrow to actually find out what's the deal. So I haven't mounted it yet to go run.
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Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:21 am |
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LA Prop
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Joined: Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:31 pm Posts: 1008
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 Re: Has anyone added cup to their prop
its prolly 15" of blade pitch and 16" total with the cup
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