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longlakesd
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Joined: Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:26 pm Posts: 99
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 missing governed idle tab spring
My 2013 35hp gdsd idles rough then quits when it is tilted up and I noticed today I am missing the governed idle tab spring .... could this be my issue? It idles fine when it is down but when it's tilted up it begins to bounce between high and low rpms then quits
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Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:33 am |
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baron von
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Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:52 pm Posts: 2806 Location: Minnesota
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 Re: missing governed idle tab spring
i think this picture has become the standard - better track down that spring
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Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:11 am |
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longlakesd
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Joined: Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:26 pm Posts: 99
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 Re: missing governed idle tab spring
Does Briggs have a replacement or should I call godevil
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Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:17 am |
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DUCK HEARSE
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Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:48 am Posts: 3161 Location: Alabama
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 Re: missing governed idle tab spring
Yes and yes
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Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:14 pm |
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deadbird8
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Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm Posts: 3833 Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
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 Re: missing governed idle tab spring
That spring helps maintain idle when put under instantaneous load (like engaging the clutch or in your case dropping the prop in the water). It wouldn't have anything to do with the motor position and keeping a consistent idle. Do you have some type of mercury switch on it?
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Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:06 pm |
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longlakesd
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 Re: missing governed idle tab spring
There is a mercury switch just for the starter .. just ordered the spring see if it helps any who knows
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Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:03 pm |
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baron von
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Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:52 pm Posts: 2806 Location: Minnesota
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 Re: missing governed idle tab spring
we've seen some weird things fixed by installing that spring, hopefully it helps - at least it is cheap
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Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:20 pm |
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longlakesd
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 Re: missing governed idle tab spring
Hopefully.. I will let you guys know if it helps here in a few days once I get it in the mail
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Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:12 pm |
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longlakesd
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Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:46 am |
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baron von
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Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:52 pm Posts: 2806 Location: Minnesota
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 Re: missing governed idle tab spring
not sure better put up a picture - here's the Briggs parts list
springs.JPG
part numbers
sprongs.JPG
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Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:26 am |
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longlakesd
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 Re: missing governed idle tab spring
Can't really tell in the part diagram doesn't seem like it is pictured but if u look at the picture you posted it's to the right of the red arrow for governor spring the purple spring .... there is two eyelets right there and I have a spring connecting those two
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Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:29 am |
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baron von
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Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:52 pm Posts: 2806 Location: Minnesota
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 Re: missing governed idle tab spring
I don't know - DB8 knows a LOT more than me, did you call GD and send them a picture? Post a pic worth a 1000 words
this is why I tore this off my motor and went EFI
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Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:11 pm |
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longlakesd
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 Re: missing governed idle tab spring
Ok I will post a picture soon
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Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:50 pm |
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kirk
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Joined: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:52 pm Posts: 870 Location: SW LA
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 Re: missing governed idle tab spring
I'm missing one of those springs as well. But I'm afraid to change anything because it idles and runs just fine
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Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:18 pm |
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longlakesd
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 Re: missing governed idle tab spring
Which one are you missing
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Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:09 pm |
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kirk
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Joined: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:52 pm Posts: 870 Location: SW LA
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 Re: missing governed idle tab spring
I'll have to take a pic, I looked at it right when I got it, then stopped worrying about it after I realized it wasn't causing any problems
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Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:07 pm |
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brycecheramie
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brycecheramie
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Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:18 pm |
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kirk
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Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:59 am |
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longlakesd
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Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:01 pm |
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kirk
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Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:42 pm |
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deadbird8
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Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:25 pm |
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longlakesd
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 Re: missing governed idle tab spring
Ok ... once I get a day off and it's not negative 30 out I will have to check .. is that governor supposed to bounce the throttle up and down ? seems like I have excess slack in my throttle cable as well ..
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Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:43 am |
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longlakesd
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 Re: missing governed idle tab spring
Well I finally fixed my motor ... after struggling during duck season to idle In neutral ... I increased the idle on the carb back in October but didn't realize that there was an idle spring on the governor that needed to be 50 or 100 rpms above the idle setting on the carb or else it's all screwed up .... think the idle was set at like 800 on the governor spring and 1200 on the carb ... But I got the tab bent out to 1300 rpms and my carb setting at 1200 ... I can tilt the motor up now all I want and it idles great and the governor keeps it regulated
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Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:54 pm |
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Texas220
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Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:37 pm |
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longlakesd
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 Re: missing governed idle tab spring
Yea it's great now ... it was 0 degrees with a windchill that had to be at least negative 10 while I was doing this but it started very easy and warmed up just fine without kicking out despite the cold
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Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:38 am |
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baron von
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Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:52 pm Posts: 2806 Location: Minnesota
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 Re: missing governed idle tab spring
good to hear - you can help the next poor guy out, we see a couple of these a month it seems
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Wed Feb 25, 2015 1:45 pm |
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longlakesd
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 Re: missing governed idle tab spring
Yea will do .. very easy fix as I found out but a major pain in the ass If you don't know what it is haha
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Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:49 pm |
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