Finally sold the old boat. I am getting ready to order a Phowler. With the amount of stuff we are known to carry, I have decided to go with at least a 52" wide boat, most likely an 18 footer.

I am just curious if anyone is running an 1860 Phowler with stock 36 PD or lightly modded PD (heads, carb, exhaust). If so, what kind of speeds are you getting?

if you can get back on the old site there is a review of a few rigs but I don't think they are on here yet.

I got a 2054 and will be getting a 20 or 1860 next.......I wish one of these east tx boys would put there stock 36 on my hull but I'm still wating......


I bet a 1860 would run the 27.7........LOL

I think balloon knot does

I have an 1860 Phowler w/32 pd, It will do 26 with just me. With the blind on, 4 guys and gear, 5 doz. decoys 70 lbs. dog, I can get it up to about 13.
A 36 might do a little better but the 32 was the biggest motor available when I bought it,but I'm happy. I can get my rig to places most guys dream about. The hull is rated at 1250 lbs.,.....sometimes we may be pushing that a little.

Thanks for the info, Pudelpointer.

I would suggest you make sure your "flatbottom" boat is actually flat across the bottom, and not a custom tunnel hull. Also, hope you're intersted in the new "Flexhull" design concept that Phowler has put together.

It doesn't hurt my feelings at all. I could have told him they were junk before he bought one, but he didn't ask me. I just hate to see people buy boats because some dude can get on the internet and claim they're the " strongest johnboat on the market" or some crap like that. I'm pretty sure you can't be the "strongest" if you're runners are 10" on center. Can you honestly tell me making dozens of 1" deep cuts in the long runners is the strongest way to make a boat? and if PW is such an omniscient boat god, why did he sell Willy a boat and trailer with the boat hanging 12" off the end of the bunks?

I must be doing something right... I got 2 moderators to respond back to back.

oh, and Tim... thanks for your advice. I've been losing alot of sleep over this whole ordeal.

Didn't Damon have a 1860 Phowler with twin 36's on it ??

Damon had an 1852 with the twins on it.

I gots an 1860. Its a 26-27 mph boat with a stock 36 and one guy, on the other hand, its a 22-23 mph boat with 4-5 guys a dog and gear. And that is why I run it. We typically hunt 4-5 guys in it all season. Just got the hard blind built on it (190 lbs - all AL) I will post a review once we get some open water again.

Crews wrote :and if PW is such an omniscient boat god, why did he sell Willy a boat and trailer with the boat hanging 12" off the end of the bunks?


You forking idiot, you just said on the "Hey Willet Post" it was 6 ". Make up you forking mind and get your shit straight before you go bad mouthin people. It is not your boat and it was not your money so SHUT THE F-CK up and let willit and paul solve THEIR own problems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Balloon-knot, thanks for the feedback.

And cutt is right. I don't appreciate the jacking of a simple thread asking a simple question.

Crews, your feelings about these boats are well documented on other threads. I did not ask for them here.

it's all fun and games till someone gets their feelings hurt. Idabilly, I'm glad you got your information, despite the fact that me and the moderators jacked your thread.



oh, and Sonny13..... you can suck it.

Crews you are whinny little puke who cant keep his nose out of others buisness. Just shut up and move on with your life. If you have nothing better to do than bad mouth people and bitch about other peoples problems, here is an idea GET A FORKING LIFE or maybe a job. Find something else to ocupy your time. Just grow up and let this thing run its course with Paul and Willet. As I stated before it is not your boat, it was not your money, it is not your problem, so stay the f out of it!!!!!!!!!!!









































And oh ya, you aint worth my time to find it to suck on it, its burried up willets ass.

Ha, sonny thinks he's a tough guy.

I really think you showed him

Not trying to be tough guy, just stating a fact. If I hurt anyones pride or feelings I am really sorry. I dont want any of you wise men mad at me. Anyways I was just saying what all want to. We all need to just let this Willit thing rest and move on with our lifes. Again Sorry all that were affended I surly dont want to hurt your feeling and make anymore of you cry.

Sonny, do kids at school call you chin nuts? It wouldn't suprise me.

thought of the day- yankees are a bunch of dipshit's

Im running a phowler extreme 1860 with a stock 36. Its a great boat. No trouble with 3 guys and gear. I have run 24 mph with 4 guys(230 240 220 and 200) 120 decoys dead birds,, blind, grass and dog in the shallows. In current with deep water and wind it doesnt do so well with that load, maybe 18. But like I said with 3 guys and load she runs good in all conditions.

Also there is zero flex in the extreme design....ZERO

ahh my criptonite

ya'll watch... it's going to take Sonny13 a couple days to come up with something clever to say. and the funny thing is, he's still going to make himself sound retarded.

What ever Crews. Sorry that I have a job and cant sit on the internet all day with my fag buddys like you. And no they didnt call me chin nuts. Just to make the record straight, your are the retard crews and sorry that you and tchreddick have not come to terms with that yet.

Clever indeed...

Come on now Sonny, as a Yankee you should realize your arguing with a Teenager and a Midget.

There is no way your going to win.

Now succumb to the Southern intellect. It isn't all that bad.

This is all really funny stuff and you guys should feel free to jab and slap each other freely, but I think that should be taken over to the Duck Blind instead of jaking someones thread.

PW