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BlackRiverJosh
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Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:49 pm Posts: 662 Location: Camden, SC
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 Buying from dealer vs. buying from manufacturer
My last boat I ordered from Kent at GT. The dealer near me that I spoke to after I ordered it told me he can sell it for the same price I paid direct through GT. Anyone have any idea how that works? Keep thinking that I left money on the table. What does GT pay the dealer to sell his boat?
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Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:40 pm |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Buying from dealer vs. buying from manufacturer
If anything, you're more likely to get a better deal at a dealer. Most manufactures, if they're smart anyway, won't undercut their dealer network. Full retail to buy direct, little wiggle possible at the dealer...especially on something that's been sitting on the lot for a little while.
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Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:46 pm |
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WhoDat88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 4:24 pm Posts: 2912 Location: Thibodaux, La
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You can get the same price from a dealer as at the manufacture. However, do research on the dealer. Some of them suck. I did my business with coco at go devil and now KP and Brian at prodrive. They both have dealers next to me but I just don't feel comfortable with them. Some dealers like Boat Doctor or Great to work with. Others are terrible. Just do your research first.
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Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:48 pm |
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MaXXis85
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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 Re: Buying from dealer vs. buying from manufacturer
Msrp will be the same, But then with a dealer you will more than likely have a shipping cost associated with the unit, Unless a deal is worked out with a dealer. As for getting a better MSRP direct it probably wont happen. Service after the sale plays a big part. Deal with who you are comfortable with.
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Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:01 am |
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BlackRiverJosh
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Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:49 pm Posts: 662 Location: Camden, SC
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 Re: Buying from dealer vs. buying from manufacturer
Wondering what profit a manufacturer makes on a boat. I just dropped 12,000 on the boat alone. I can't decide whether I should take a BC powder or Prep H for the f*cking I got. It's a great boat and exactly what I wanted but I just can't help but think about this stuff.
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Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:07 am |
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MaXXis85
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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 Re: Buying from dealer vs. buying from manufacturer
Not as much as most people think. You have to buy raw materials, Pay utilities, pay employees, pay insurance, pay the tooling and machinery to manufacture the product, and pay for the non maufacutred parts that will also be a part of the unit.
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Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:07 am |
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BlackRiverJosh
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Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:49 pm Posts: 662 Location: Camden, SC
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 Re: Buying from dealer vs. buying from manufacturer
I understand the overhead is a factor. The GT plant was pretty impressive and they have lots of people and stuff. On a 12,000 boat they have to making a decent percent of profit.
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Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:33 pm |
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TPerkins
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:59 pm Posts: 1793 Location: Clear Lake, Tx
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 Re: Buying from dealer vs. buying from manufacturer
I've went directly through gt on both boats I've owned. But I had something specific in each situation I wanted and didn't mind waiting for it to be built. I do think warranty issues would be easier going through gt. That is unless you are far away (I'm 4+ hrs away).
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Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:12 pm |
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cmk07c
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Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:11 am Posts: 556 Location: Metairie, LA
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 Re: Buying from dealer vs. buying from manufacturer
12k on just a boat? Trailer, Motor? Damn a GoDevil boat is a steal of deal.
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Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:22 pm |
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BlackRiverJosh
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Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:49 pm Posts: 662 Location: Camden, SC
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 Re: Buying from dealer vs. buying from manufacturer
Just on the boat. It was tricked out pretty well. If I remember correctly, the options were almost as much as the hull. In the beginning I thought it would be cheap but after I went through the options with Kent, it really added up. I'm happy with the boat...couldn't be happier, just wondered how much profit they made on the deal. The entire process was great, GT folks were fantastic to work with and there were no surprises. After you add the motor and trailer there's another 12,000 out the door. Whoever said "you gotta pay to play" was telling the truth.
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Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:38 pm |
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cmk07c
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Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:11 am Posts: 556 Location: Metairie, LA
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 Buying from dealer vs. buying from manufacturer
I wouldn't be playing if it cost 24k to play. Honestly the money has to be made in upgrades I would imagine. Them manufacturing a loaded boat can't take that much more "time" then bare bones boat.
Lights is about all a hunting boat needs. To think of the add on options I wasted money on when I bought my boat. Did I need that seat base, did I need this camo gas tank cover, is this boat blind worth the head ache and do I kill more birds because of it? Nope, just money they took from me. If I buy another mud boat which ain't for years. It would be rigged and have a head light and that's it.
Only options necessary in my opinion is maybe tall transom and maybe a hunt deck and obviously want it water ready and with a bilge.
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Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:05 pm |
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WhoDat88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 4:24 pm Posts: 2912 Location: Thibodaux, La
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 Re: Buying from dealer vs. buying from manufacturer
They don't make the profit you think, it is not even close. The equipment, facility, insurance and utilities kill them dudes. When it is all said and done, I bet they profit between 4% and 10% of what they sell.
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Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:00 am |
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MaXXis85
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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caddobrook
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Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:01 am Posts: 881
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mizzippi jb
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:53 pm Posts: 5077 Location: The duck Mecca called Ga!
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Thanks to folks who buy new boats! I'll sacrifice a few little things to save thousands on a boat/motor/trailer that somebody has put 75 hours on.
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Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:02 pm |
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flint87
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:21 pm Posts: 3214
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BlackRiverJosh
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Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:49 pm Posts: 662 Location: Camden, SC
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 Re: Buying from dealer vs. buying from manufacturer
I'm loving the boat. It just doesn't look like what it cost. I'm sure I will want an upgrade in a few years. Just got to fight it til then. After I got mine I saw so many boats that I wished I bought. Such is life I guess.
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krazo
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Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:44 pm Posts: 667 Location: SE Bama
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 Re: Buying from dealer vs. buying from manufacturer
I kinda went in the middle. I got a new boat built the way I wanted and got the builder (prodigy)to do the stuff I couldn't (welding). Then I did all the rigging like lights, battery's, bilge, radio,ect. Next I purchased an older stock GTR and modded myself(with MMT help) . I saved all of my receipts and at the end I figured I spent 8k less than I would have if I had just ordered everything new and let them do all of it. But I do have an 09 motor on a 14 boat.
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cmk07c
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Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:11 am Posts: 556 Location: Metairie, LA
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BlackRiverJosh
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Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:49 pm Posts: 662 Location: Camden, SC
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 Re: Buying from dealer vs. buying from manufacturer
Yes and now I wish I had gone with a custom Louisiana builder. Would have gotten a boat exactly how I wanted it and probably cheaper too. The Gtrax is great but it seems I live and learn. Education certainly is expensive.
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Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:42 am |
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Woodiebuster
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Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:00 pm Posts: 6060 Location: Choudrant, La
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 Re: Buying from dealer vs. buying from manufacturer
I have about half the money in my rig that my buddy has tied up in his factory pd rig. Piecing together a boat motor and trailer and rigging it yourself saves big
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