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wrongway
MMT Member
Joined: Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:49 pm Posts: 6 Location: West Point Ne
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 Advice/help
I have a question for the group and need some advice. I'm 72 and last year bought a mud boat 14x48 Jon 6.5 Predator with stage one(longtail) I get hung up on the sand bars where the water is 4-6" deep,I'm thinking of going to a surface drive,Twister or something on that order. Would this be any better or still have the same problem? Thank you
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Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:04 pm |
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Buckmark311
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:50 am Posts: 284
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 Re: Advice/help
Twister kits are garbage. Put gator glide on your hull and look for some More HP. I'd either go with an 18hp copperhead surface drive or do a swamp runner kit with the 420cc predator and stage 1 mods. 6.5hp and stage one is really only 8-9hp and isn't going to push through anything.
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Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:09 pm |
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brycecheramie
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
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 Re: Advice/help
Like stated, Add Gator Glide, and get a Copperhead to keep it light. anything from 10hp-23hp will be good for that boat.
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Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:13 pm |
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wrongway
MMT Member
Joined: Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:49 pm Posts: 6 Location: West Point Ne
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 Re: Advice/help
I'd like to thank the 2 members that replied to my post for help/advice. MudMotors has a kit that I can change my longTail to a surface drive. I value your opions. And if I was rich I'd purchase a MudBuddy or Go Devil. Thanks again in-advance
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Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:48 pm |
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brycecheramie
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
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Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:01 pm |
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Buckmark311
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:50 am Posts: 284
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 Re: Advice/help
^ no joke. I bought a kit for a 6.5ho longtail, then the 420cc longtail, then put stage one upgrades, then a 35hp surface drive and now stage 3 mods on that surface drive. Each time I bought the kit (at a new cost) and motor, I realized I could have gotten a used one Of the major manufacturers that carry their individual reputations.
Just know what the limitations of your motor are. A long tail under 25hp is really just a shallow water motor. You will get through weeds with it but you aren't pushing mud and certainly not sand. Same goes for a surface drive under 18hp.
There are a few pages on Facebook that have all sorts of used mud motors. You may want to take a look on there for some inventory and pricing options.
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Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:10 pm |
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Russ
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:07 pm Posts: 4820 Location: West Monroe, LA
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I've seen no less than four 16hp or higher longtails for sale on this forum for less than $1500 since January. One went for 800 or less (his asking was 800, but may have sold it for less). The "if I was rich I'd get a ______" just makes some of us laugh. I got my 35hp surface drive for 3500, and could've had it back stock for another 500 or less if I found some good used parts. That's less than half what it would cost new. The same types of deals exist for smaller hp motors. With a little patience and diligence, you can find something that will hold up and serve you better than those kits. That being said, budget, expectations, and need drive what you should get. Gator glide will help with those sandbars, but 6.5 hp isn't really enough at that depth on that boat.
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Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:21 pm |
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brycecheramie
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
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Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:29 pm |
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wrongway
MMT Member
Joined: Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:49 pm Posts: 6 Location: West Point Ne
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 Re: Advice/help
From what everyone been telling me is just get a bigger motor,so I'm looking at a 13-22hp motor and then put frog spit or gator glide on the bottom. Better?
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Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:11 pm |
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brycecheramie
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
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Yeap, I still say to find a used copperhead. That will push your bought great and be really light.
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Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:19 pm |
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Buckmark311
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:50 am Posts: 284
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^nailed it.
used copperhead, Gator glide (just bc I have used it, personally spoke to owner for assistance, and has all positive reviews) and you will be ready to roll!
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Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:38 am |
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wrongway
MMT Member
Joined: Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:49 pm Posts: 6 Location: West Point Ne
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 Re: Advice/help
That What I'm looking for a bigger motor 13hp or a little more don't want to add to much weight to it.
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Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:24 pm |
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Gigafowl
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:19 pm Posts: 6441 Location: Trinity Bay - Texas
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Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:27 pm |
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meterman3
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:25 pm Posts: 1407
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^ this
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Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:00 pm |
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Joe Guide
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:58 pm Posts: 159 Location: Coastal North Carolina
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Good idea there with a wider boat..but sand is going to stop you on most rivers, as the GDSD Boats or mostly any jon will stick to it. A more powerful motor will just have you going faster and if and when you hit that sand bar you will need a wench to get you off with some PVC pipes to roll you off.
Better light bar will keep you off those sand spits.
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Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:21 pm |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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Why is this in the "pay it forward" section of the classifieds? 
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Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:24 am |
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woody_29
MMT Member
Joined: Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:20 pm Posts: 31 Location: SE TEXAS
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Check out Drake Surface Drives out of Fort Worth
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Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:49 pm |
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