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bluesky2012
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Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
Had marcus do the heads on my GTR 35 on a 1754 gator tail extreme with a 3/16 bottom. I replaced my powerhead last year with a brand new one and at ~48 hrs sent them to him. This is an honest review and none of the "my stock motor carried an elephant 37 mph".
My original valves leaked, and had daylight coming through them. Didn't care to do a leakdown but it was probably around 30%.
Marcus decked them .050, port, polish, springs, welded the rocker bosses, 3 angle valve job, etc.
I put the heads back on and ran it this past weekend with a stock exhaust, so this comparison will tell you the difference between completely stock to heads. I have a BPS Q that I just installed and will post those results after I run it this weekend so we can see if any additional gains were made.
With the stock motor I usually ran 3800-3900 RPMs depending on the load. With myself, I ran around 25, with two guys I got about 21.5 but was less with gear, and then it went lower from there. 2 guys and a heavy hunting load I ran 19, but took 250-300 yards to plane. It was slow. Most loads usually took me 100-250 yards to get on plane but with a big load that extended even further.
I ran this weekend with me, my dad, (each 200lbs), cooler, 3/16 bottom, polling platform, 8ft rod box, winch, and misc stuff and I was turning 4150 with a used big blade at 25mph in deep water (40ft) with some light chop. That was a solid 4 mph difference, maybe more. The hole shot decreased to probably 30 yards. The low end (which is what I care about) was dramatically different. You can feel it is much more responsive and picks up fast. I don't stall at 13 mph trying to get on plane anymore and instead and up and running hard with a decent load.
I am very pleased with the headwork. It took roughly 2 weeks including shipping each way to get the heads done. Marcus is a great guy and his work and service is top notch.
I'll be running the boat bowfishing this weekend where I can really test load carrying and shallow water speeds.
I intend to post continued updates when I get numbers with the exhaust and later I'll probably toss a cam in as well.
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MaXXis85
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
Thanks Mang! They are decked .050"
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bluesky2012
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
But did you get a written warranty? Sent from my SM-T710 using Tapatalk
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DmaxHunter
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:21 pm Posts: 2207 Location: North Alabama
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
The work on the heads was well done. Night and day between old valves..literally
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MaXXis85
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
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lastchance
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MaXXis85
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
^^^LMAO
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
Lol
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Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:57 pm |
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bluesky2012
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Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
Ran yesterday for 5 hrs bowfishing and riding. Minimal top end loss when going from 2-3 guys, and the hole shot just barely extended any more. With a heavy load of 3 guys, polling platform, loaded rod box, winch, tools, two batteries, trolling motor, cooler, bows, etc I ran about 24-25 no matter positioning of people, gear, etc.
Good time on the water.
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MaXXis85
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
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bluesky2012
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
For sure. Gonna be running it hard this week out fishing. I've been really pleased with how it's been pushing these heavy loads.
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Ducaholic
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Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:28 pm Posts: 1014 Location: Avoyelles Parish
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
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MaXXis85
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
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cb5331
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MaXXis85
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Ducaholic
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
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Russ
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Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:07 pm Posts: 4820 Location: West Monroe, LA
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
And we've discovered that at least with this subject, your opinion is wrong. Stay buddies with your lawyer, and go find another forum to piss in. You have ceased to participate in a meaningful way here. No one is saying you should have them work your motor, but you're saying their word doesn't matter, and to those they've helped or done work for, it does. It's factual, not an opinion. Go get your mudbuddy warranty, and go back to TOS where your opinion carries some weight, wrong or not.
#CFFITR #TheGhostBoat #whoneedsphysicsihaveamudmotor
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Wchauvin
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
Hey maxxis85, what do you charge to work the heads on a 40 and what kind of performance gains have you seen in worked heads on the new 40s?
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MaXXis85
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
Take a Look at these Cylinder heads from a BIG name manufacturer. They don't lie when they install "large valves", But look at all the valve overlapping the seat. That helps flow REALLY well. Look close as you can see the Shiny part That is where the valve seats... It is only about .010 of seat area where it should be at Minimum .040 seat for proper sealing and cooling of the valve. It has a single angle on the seat aswell. Again Big name brand heads with cleaned up ports and a shitty valve job. bps valve.jpg bps bowl.jpg Now take a look at the Bowl and roof. After spending BIG money on heads, you would thing the bowl would blend into the seat, the valves would seal, and the roof would streamline into the bowl. Maybe I'm doing it all wrong by charging the same amount and doing more work. It amazes me that so many people are getting ripped off out of their hard earned money for crappy work. By a company that offers a "written warranty"
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MaXXis85
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Ducaholic
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
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SETx Longtail
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_________________ #CFFITR
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Wchauvin
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
Maxxis85, imma get with you when my warrenty runs out bro
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MaXXis85
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Ducaholic
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MaXXis85
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MaXXis85
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
Back on Topic. Thank you Jordan for you honest review of my work.
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bluesky2012
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Ducaholic
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cb5331
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Wchauvin
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
It's going to take me that long to justify more boat spending to the wife lol
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bluesky2012
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Wchauvin
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
That's below the belt son lol I only bought my mercury prop, the other came with my motor, don't flex with me lol
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bluesky2012
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Wchauvin
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
I know that's right lol you got to pay most of it cash and then put the rest on the card so you can show her that you only spent a little bit lol
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bluesky2012
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
Same 2 man heavy load, moved some weight around while fishing and ran 27 in 40ft of choppy water at 4250 rpms
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MaXXis85
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
Damn. Jordan, I bet some hull tuning you will see more speed.
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bluesky2012
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MaXXis85
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Re: Bayou Surface Drives Heads Review
get you a quick pin for top speeds and yank it out for the bad stuff to let the motor dig.
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