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1648
MMT Member
Joined: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:26 pm Posts: 3
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Advice for Semi-New Operator
BackStory:
Dad has a 1652 with 35hp MB Long Tail. I have run that boat with that motor many times. But recently i purchased a 1648 with a little 4 horse regular outboard. I took it to the duck blind yesterday and liked to tore that outboard up a couple times before it was all said and done. The motor quit on me on the way out and i had to push pole the last 1000 yards up the access ditch. I vowed in that moment i needed to get rid of that motor and put a mud motor on it. I think a long tail would do me better for what i do.
Questions:
What size motor would you put on it? What brand? Any specific setup modifications you would advise?
_________________ 1648 Duck Boat (Motor not yet determined)
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Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:27 am |
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Gigafowl
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:19 pm Posts: 6441 Location: Trinity Bay - Texas
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Re: Advice for Semi-New Operator
For over 10 years I used an 8HP LT on a variety of hulls with good success it plowed thru a lot of rough places with an amazing amount of power...
But to plane out a pair of guys and gear an 18 to 23 HP LT would be needed...
I ran a 23GDLT on my GD 1648 and pushed 20mph solo - 17mph with 2 man hunting loads...
If that helps...
_________________ Eat - Sleep - Hunt ! ! !
"It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end."
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Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:29 pm |
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Wchauvin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:10 pm Posts: 1872
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Re: Advice for Semi-New Operator
Get you a 25 Koehler. I have a 23 GDLT and wish I had the 25. Little more power and little better speeds I found
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Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:41 pm |
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huck Finn
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:42 pm Posts: 1913 Location: Conroe tx
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Re: Advice for Semi-New Operator
_________________ Ole black water keep on rolling
18x54 Uncle J -GTR - with the koolaid Back H2o SWOMP 23 SS stage 2 15x36 GD Duck Skiff GATOR GATOR GLIDE PROSTAFF BACKWATER PROSTAFF http://www.gatorglide.com
Coupe rest in peace brother
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Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:03 pm |
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Wchauvin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:10 pm Posts: 1872
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Re: Advice for Semi-New Operator
Interesting, I found the Koehler to be a little faster and a lot more torque, but that's different hulls for you. Nothing runs the same on different hulls lol
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Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:50 pm |
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huck Finn
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:42 pm Posts: 1913 Location: Conroe tx
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Re: Advice for Semi-New Operator
I could not get stuck with that 25, It would just eat and push , always power, But it hit a top end wall as far as speed. Im not knocking it, Both great motors. In truth im not too much concerned with speed anymore, Its load capabilities and getting in , getting out that matters.
H finn
_________________ Ole black water keep on rolling
18x54 Uncle J -GTR - with the koolaid Back H2o SWOMP 23 SS stage 2 15x36 GD Duck Skiff GATOR GATOR GLIDE PROSTAFF BACKWATER PROSTAFF http://www.gatorglide.com
Coupe rest in peace brother
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Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:20 am |
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Wchauvin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:10 pm Posts: 1872
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Re: Advice for Semi-New Operator
Yeah you are right bro. I like my little 23 a lot too. It has gotten me out of a bind and getting me to places I would not have gotten without it
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Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:24 am |
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Glades Ranger
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:32 pm Posts: 1490 Location: south Florida
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Re: Advice for Semi-New Operator
Ran both a 1544 alumaweld and now a 1648 grizzly for years with Kohler 25's. Great motor and decent match, though neither is a true mud hull...a friend has a 1990 lowe 1648 and has the original Kohler GD 25 longtail still on it, albeit he has replace a few internals. I have run both GD 25 and MB 27 and now have a 26.5 Backwater. I have to recommend the BW over the others, take a look at their website, give them a call. The new lite frame (no U-joint) looks like the ticket! Better price than the others, not cheap by any means, but IMO a simply better quality motor and CS is great.
_________________ Sailing in the sawgrass /1648 grizzly and Swomp 26.5 EFI
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Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:43 am |
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WI715
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:24 am Posts: 53
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Re: Advice for Semi-New Operator
Go had big as you can afford. Backwater makes a great kit. You can through a Briggs, Kohler, or pred on it. I have a pred on my surface drive, I'm very happy with that engine.
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_________________ Extreme Metal Fab 16x48 w/huntdeck 40EFI Backwater LT
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