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stonegreyday
MMT Member
Joined: Sun May 30, 2010 6:34 pm Posts: 5
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 how do mudmotors do on river sand?
i have been thinking bout getting a mud motor. the river where i live has been getting lower and lower every year. how well do mudmotors do in a shallow, sandy river?
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Sun May 30, 2010 6:50 pm |
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Caleb W.
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:29 pm Posts: 136
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 Re: how do mudmotors do on river sand?
Sand is the devil when it comes to MM props. How shallow are we talking? If its not too shallow you may want to go outboard/tunnel hull route.
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Sun May 30, 2010 7:08 pm |
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mcnemar1982
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:03 pm Posts: 2216 Location: Walker, Louisiana
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 Re: how do mudmotors do on river sand?
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bjg
MMT F.E.
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:34 pm Posts: 882 Location: Ahead of you, with a rubber band turning my prop!!
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 Re: how do mudmotors do on river sand?
they dont
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Sun May 30, 2010 7:28 pm |
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Caleb W.
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:29 pm Posts: 136
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 Re: how do mudmotors do on river sand?
Thats why I asked about how shallow it actually is. If he wont be grinding on bottom, or is just drafting a lil too much right now, it might be quicker to have a shallow outboard setup with load carrying capabilities, ease of operation, etc etc. This is how many of us run down river (shallow and sandy) to get to the mouth of the lake where the MMs are parked (pretty long haul). I gave this option because it sounds like its not too bad as of now. All depends on his answer.
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Sun May 30, 2010 7:37 pm |
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DeathMetalDukk
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:50 pm Posts: 3777 Location: Knotts Island, North Carolina.
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 Re: how do mudmotors do on river sand?
We have a good amount of sandy bottoms here, the prop just bounces on them. You could wear out a prop every year running here.
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Sun May 30, 2010 7:59 pm |
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jpc014
MMT F.E.
Joined: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:17 pm Posts: 785 Location: Meraux, LA
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 Re: how do mudmotors do on river sand?
Sand is da DEVIL!!!!!!
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Sun May 30, 2010 9:37 pm |
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quackconsumer
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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 Re: how do mudmotors do on river sand?
SAND = New Prop.
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Sun May 30, 2010 9:54 pm |
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50fps
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:42 pm Posts: 2377 Location: West Coast Wisconsin
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 Re: how do mudmotors do on river sand?
I'd go with a longtail.
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Mon May 31, 2010 8:03 am |
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stonegreyday
MMT Member
Joined: Sun May 30, 2010 6:34 pm Posts: 5
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 Re: how do mudmotors do on river sand?
thanks for your answers. the river is not '' all '' shallow, only here and there where the river widens out. during the summer the river gets where you can't run parts of it with a regular outboard. those are also the times when the fish are biting  i'm looking for a motor that acts as much like a regular outboard as possible. without reverse of course, those motors are just too heavy . i want to use as ligt a boat as i can, so i can drag it if i need to. but, i still want a little speed for those long runs. also has anyone ever tried remote steering on these mud motors? and i'm not talking about using a steering wheel. i'm talking about stick steering, in the front of the boat. once again thanks for your answers.
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Mon May 31, 2010 11:39 am |
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jpc014
MMT F.E.
Joined: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:17 pm Posts: 785 Location: Meraux, LA
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 Re: how do mudmotors do on river sand?
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Mon May 31, 2010 3:13 pm |
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WestEndAngler
MMT Moderator
Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:11 am Posts: 9143 Location: Houston | Surfside
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 Re: how do mudmotors do on river sand?
Here's what West Bay sand did to my prop...
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Mon May 31, 2010 4:27 pm |
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Robn1020
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:09 pm Posts: 4232 Location: Cypress, TX
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 Re: how do mudmotors do on river sand?
Buy an airboat. Then you won't even worry bout dry ground.
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Mon May 31, 2010 7:08 pm |
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DeathMetalDukk
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:50 pm Posts: 3777 Location: Knotts Island, North Carolina.
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Mon May 31, 2010 8:25 pm |
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HUNT4DEER
MMT F.E.
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:39 am Posts: 833 Location: DODGIN ROCKS ON THE RIVER OR CARS ON THE INTERSTATE
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 Re: how do mudmotors do on river sand?
i wish i had a picture of my boat. its a 14x48 riveted triton with a mb 23 mini lite. i put it together for just what you want to do. it works great. light enough to drag and runs very shallow. so far tthe riveted boat has held up very well about three years running. i hear about transom problems and rivets getting loose but i think running water and not real mud causes those problems. i havent seen any flex or rivet problems. the transom on my boat is bone stock.
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Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:45 am |
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Mudgun
MMT Addict
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:24 pm Posts: 746 Location: Here Be Rocks VA
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 Re: how do mudmotors do on river sand?
I've been running a jet pump in areas that I used to run a MM. If you have true sand that is hard enough to bounce a skeg or a rock guard on a PD you might be ok. Now, if you have a rock guard you may not be able to dig down to get off a sand bar. We have a clay/sand soil mix that means the bottom feels like mud but grinds a prop like sand. What you will find is that you will lose top end and then you will lose hole shot and then you will buy a new prop. DMD is right, I was using a prop every six months. Not even a lot of running. I could literally burn a prop in one trip if I got stuck in the right spot. One thing I would consider is UHMW. Now, if you try to slide over a sand bar you will go farther and be stuck farther from water. But, if you use your brain you may be able to slide it off a lot easier if you beach it. Jets are not perfect either. I hit a rock yesterday and took a chunk out of the jet foot. Bedrock > cast aluminum at 30mph. I have UHMW fins on the foot to protect it. S/S threaded rod holds them on. They also help with cavitation. The rock smashed the aluminum into the S/S threads. Not sure how I'm gonna fix it. But, I was able to run with no difference in speed. May just take the fins off and run the foot old-style until I kill it all the way. BOAT= Break Out Another Thousand. 
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