Can anyone explain to me what is new with the new vangaurd motor? I heard something about a marine edtion? I'm haven't heard much on this, but thought I would check out what it is and whose got it? Thanks!

Old news !!

Marine = poo
Regular = good motor

My take on it

All the marine motors i have been around are harder/ take longer to start and hesitate pretty bad off idle. My regular olde lawn mower motor cranks after a couple turns of the starter, idles good, and just seems to run better. Only cool thing i like about the marine motor is the chargine system output

Briggs is currently considering "scrapping" several of the cdi engine's components.

My cdi motor does not start as easy as my old motor. But I do like the charging system.

So if you buy a new setup from GT, does it only come with the CDI's or do they offer both? Seen where MB offers both, just wondering if anyone knows...

They are only offering the Cdi as of now!!

When did they put the marine motor into service. Does Prodrive have that with the same issues?

So basically get rid of the charging system and keep the rest since that is what makes it a Piss pore machine!!

Got dam iPhone lol

They're making the engine with a 20 amp charging system now also...I'm not sure if the flywheel magnets are different though.

I gotta say I don't think the cdi runs any better than a regular. I leave it at half choke to warm cause it may cut off, and a good deal of times it will kill when I engage the clutch in anything but open water.

im thinkin fuel injection is not far off. that could be a good thing. i bro just bought a kubota rtv with fi and its great for start up and idle. 100 or -10 degrees and it starts up and idles. we have had mules for ever and they dont do either hot or cold.

It's ashamed gt doesn't offer anything but CDI now..

Are the 23GTR's CHI i have the 2011 model and was wondering?

To Boat Dr.

Are you saying that even the non-CDI motors now have the fuel pump mounted on the bracket up in front of the oil fill cap?

A friend of mine just picked up his new 45 mag and I thought it was a CDI engine b/c of where the fuel pump was mounted, but this may not be the case.

the 613477-0193-E2 is a marine engine without the 50 amp charging system!!

Thanks Andy, That answers my question.

So you guys are saying that this statement isn't correct on the better throttle responst!

New for 2010 - Pro-Drive is the only shallow water outboard to utilize the new 36 HP Vanguard Marine Powerhead. This new Powerhead, developed exclusively for Pro-Drive offers a new CDI ignition system, dual amp 20/50 charging system, high pressure fuel pump and stainless exhaust. This new engine has better idling, the best charging system on the market and better throttle up over other available powerheads.

When my CDI was stock I thought it ran better than my non CDI powerhead...Maybe I got a lemon. lol

But with heads, carb, exhaust, and cam.....it really fu<kin runs.