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Allterrain
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Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:59 am Posts: 10
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 MB offering 40hp Kohler
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Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:55 am |
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dux
MMT Member
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:52 pm Posts: 14 Location: Pool 6
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 Re: MB offering 40hp Kohler
Two models......999 cc.....interesting. I take it the Mercury Hydraulic Trim means the same package that Merc outboards use?
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Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:28 pm |
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: MB offering 40hp Kohler
Spec. wise, the 35 Vangaurd And 40 Kohler are very close.
35 Vangaurd cc's - 993 Bore - 86 mm Stroke - 87 mm Compression Ratio - 8.2-1
40 Kohler cc's - 999 Bore - 90 mm Stroke - 78 mm Compression Ratio - 8.8-1
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Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:57 pm |
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deadbird8
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm Posts: 3833 Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
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Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:16 pm |
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Duck Natzi
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:14 pm Posts: 213 Location: Cervix Deep Ar.
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Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:17 pm |
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whackem
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Joined: Sun Apr 05, 2009 8:31 am Posts: 83
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Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:29 pm |
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mudd
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:44 pm Posts: 443 Location: Wisconsin
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 Re: MB offering 40hp Kohler
that did make me laugh!
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Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:08 pm |
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dead animal
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:18 pm Posts: 1726
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Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:11 pm |
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: MB offering 40hp Kohler
6 cc's is not a big difference.
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Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:14 pm |
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POKER1
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 6243 Location: Bossier City
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Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:22 pm |
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Gigafowl
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:19 pm Posts: 6441 Location: Trinity Bay - Texas
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 Re: MB offering 40hp Kohler
I asked my GD man bout the 40 Kohler and his reply was that it had the hp alright but not the torque they wanted on the low end...
I would love to see a torque curve comparison to the 35 and 36 hps that are already the mainstay of the MM market.... If the power is all on the hi end of the rpm band - it won't fit the application of a MM...
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Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:31 pm |
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craig
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: MB offering 40hp Kohler
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Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:33 pm |
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deadbird8
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm Posts: 3833 Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
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Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:31 am |
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deadbird8
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm Posts: 3833 Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
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Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:38 am |
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River
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:34 am Posts: 1092 Location: Unaffiliated, SETX group has caused me to renounce my Texas Citizenship
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Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:46 am |
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: MB offering 40hp Kohler
No i tough myself that building engines. Particularly, 383 Stroker engines. Hence the stroker part.
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Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:51 am |
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River
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:34 am Posts: 1092 Location: Unaffiliated, SETX group has caused me to renounce my Texas Citizenship
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Ok,
My point was that your little offhanded trying to be sly statement didn't make much sense.
When in fact, when you shorten stroke or length, you reduce Torque.
Power is the rate at which work is done or energy is transmitted.
Torque is a factor, but not the sole or single factor in the power equation.
Need any more physics lessons call me.
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Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:09 am |
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quackconsumer
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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 Re: MB offering 40hp Kohler
I keep my mouth shut in most of these engine related topics because unlike some, I know that I don't know enough to comment.
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Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:16 am |
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River
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:34 am Posts: 1092 Location: Unaffiliated, SETX group has caused me to renounce my Texas Citizenship
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Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:24 am |
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: MB offering 40hp Kohler
I'm sorry, I should have used the word torque in place of power. And you are right, torque is not the single or sole factor in the power equation. Angular velocity is also used to formulate power when characterizing rotational systems. Power put out by an engine is equal to the force it exerts (Torque) multiplied by its angular velocity (RPM). If you shorten the stroke of an engine, you then lesson the force it exerts (Torque) With that being said, I stand by what I said earlier: If you shorten the stroke of an engine you will reduce power.Does my offhanded, trying to be sly statement make sense now? And thanks for the offer on the physics lesson ...............I may take you up on it. 
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Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:43 am |
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River
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:34 am Posts: 1092 Location: Unaffiliated, SETX group has caused me to renounce my Texas Citizenship
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So why didn't you say that in the first place?
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Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:46 am |
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craig
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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Because I don't think most people would understand half of what you and I just wrote. Thats why I try to keep it simple, but every now and then SOMEONE forces me to explain things in more detail. 
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Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:52 am |
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craig
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: MB offering 40hp Kohler
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:20 am |
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Sand Man
MMT F.E.
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:57 am Posts: 994 Location: Fort Worth, TX
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 Re: MB offering 40hp Kohler
So if you shorten the stroke you always reduce the power???? What about if you shorten the stroke and increase the bore? You boys need to talk apples to apples. 
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Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:30 am |
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: MB offering 40hp Kohler
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:35 am |
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Mud Slinger
MMT Moderator
Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:48 pm Posts: 989
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Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:35 am |
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River
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:34 am Posts: 1092 Location: Unaffiliated, SETX group has caused me to renounce my Texas Citizenship
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Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:37 am |
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Sand Man
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Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:57 am Posts: 994 Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:39 am |
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craig
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: MB offering 40hp Kohler
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:40 am |
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craig
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:42 am |
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phowler
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:20 pm Posts: 203 Location: Flyover country
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 Re: MB offering 40hp Kohler
I for one know enough about the internal combustion engine to know that this thread is in the wrong forum.
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Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:42 am |
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Rail
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:26 pm Posts: 302
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 Re: MB offering 40hp Kohler
Building and over square motor has it's advantages in longevity but it will leave something behind in the torque game.. Suck it!.. lol
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