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Fearthebeard91
MMT Member
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:16 pm Posts: 21 Location: Horicon Wisconsin.
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 Propane Powered Surface Drive gear ratio
Hey guys im new to MMT and have a question, i just built a surface drive for my 1462 custom tunneled Jon boat, the engine is a brand new 32hp generac set up to run on LP, i abuilt a lower unit for it temporarily, its a 24 inch long shaft with a 10x9 backwater prop, i have not run te engine yet in the water soo im not sure how it will react to a 24t sprocket on the crank and a 12t on the out drive, what do y'all think?
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Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:30 pm |
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msm8281
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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 Re: Propane Powered Surface Drive gear ratio
If it doesn't run right you can always use the left over LP for a fish fry.
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Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:08 pm |
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autogateman
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:32 pm Posts: 4036 Location: Gonzales La
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Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:11 pm |
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Fearthebeard91
MMT Member
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:16 pm Posts: 21 Location: Horicon Wisconsin.
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 Re: Propane Powered Surface Drive gear ratio
The engine runs great its brand new, and yes 24 on the crank 12 on the out drive, i build it soo im sure thats what it is.
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Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:26 pm |
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autogateman
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:32 pm Posts: 4036 Location: Gonzales La
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 Re: Propane Powered Surface Drive gear ratio
you trying to spin the prop twice as fast as the engine, that will never work i promise.
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Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:35 pm |
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autogateman
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:32 pm Posts: 4036 Location: Gonzales La
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 Re: Propane Powered Surface Drive gear ratio
It takes a modded 35 to turn a 1:1.2 ratio, I can assure you that your 2:1 is gonna be a turd.
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Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:36 pm |
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chaseh
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:50 pm Posts: 1230 Location: Waco, Texas
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 Re: Propane Powered Surface Drive gear ratio
I say try it and let us know how it goes!
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Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:43 pm |
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barnes_53
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:14 pm Posts: 4781
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Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:56 pm |
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vertical_edge_800
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:48 am Posts: 274 Location: Palmer, Alaska
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 Re: Propane Powered Surface Drive gear ratio
I would start with a 1:5.
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Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:08 am |
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vertical_edge_800
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:48 am Posts: 274 Location: Palmer, Alaska
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 Re: Propane Powered Surface Drive gear ratio
Maybe a 1:4 since the prop is kind of small.. gears are cheap, props are not..
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Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:09 am |
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Fearthebeard91
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Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:16 pm Posts: 21 Location: Horicon Wisconsin.
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 Re: Propane Powered Surface Drive gear ratio
Really?!? That low of a ratio??? Less than 1:1? If these motors are turning the prop that slow how are they seeing higher speeds than a long shaft?
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Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:08 am |
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MaXXis85
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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 Re: Propane Powered Surface Drive gear ratio
_________________ Bayou Surface Drive 337-351-0362 Tarkington, TX 77327
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Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:06 am |
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Gigafowl
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:19 pm Posts: 6441 Location: Trinity Bay - Texas
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_________________ Eat - Sleep - Hunt ! ! !
"It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end."
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Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:18 am |
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Fearthebeard91
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Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:16 pm Posts: 21 Location: Horicon Wisconsin.
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 Re: Propane Powered Surface Drive gear ratio
Ohh wow thats new to my ears! Thank you soo much for that, soo what do you think I sould go with a 1:1.4 ?
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Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:40 am |
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Gigafowl
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:19 pm Posts: 6441 Location: Trinity Bay - Texas
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_________________ Eat - Sleep - Hunt ! ! !
"It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end."
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Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:57 am |
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Fearthebeard91
MMT Member
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:16 pm Posts: 21 Location: Horicon Wisconsin.
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 Re: Propane Powered Surface Drive gear ratio
I have heard that tunnels are bad, what is the reason for this? Also i plan on putting pods on it to compensate for the draft.
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Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:03 am |
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Fearthebeard91
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Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:16 pm Posts: 21 Location: Horicon Wisconsin.
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I could enclose the tunnel if need be as well.
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Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:05 am |
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Gigafowl
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:19 pm Posts: 6441 Location: Trinity Bay - Texas
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_________________ Eat - Sleep - Hunt ! ! !
"It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end."
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Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:12 am |
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MaXXis85
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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 Re: Propane Powered Surface Drive gear ratio
Propane has less BTU's than Gas so less energy per unit. If the unit can have the compression increased you can make good power with propane cause it its High octane level.
The more reduction you have the more mechanical advantage you give the motor to spin a given prop.. You need to find a combo of reduction and pitch that will work with the HP you have.
_________________ Bayou Surface Drive 337-351-0362 Tarkington, TX 77327
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Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:16 am |
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Fearthebeard91
MMT Member
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:16 pm Posts: 21 Location: Horicon Wisconsin.
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 Re: Propane Powered Surface Drive gear ratio
The motor was built by generac to run off propane it has a higher compression ratio than a gasoline generac 990, i didn't just add a propane kit to it, it came like that. Now im trying to figure out what pitch the prop is.
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Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:20 am |
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Fearthebeard91
MMT Member
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:16 pm Posts: 21 Location: Horicon Wisconsin.
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 Re: Propane Powered Surface Drive gear ratio
The motor was built by generac to run off propane it has a higher compression ratio than a gasoline generac 990, i didn't just add a propane kit to it, it came like that. Now im trying to figure out what pitch the prop is.
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Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:21 am |
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Fearthebeard91
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Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:16 pm Posts: 21 Location: Horicon Wisconsin.
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 Re: Propane Powered Surface Drive gear ratio
What should i use for a prop? 35+ hp motor.
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Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:15 pm |
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Gigafowl
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:19 pm Posts: 6441 Location: Trinity Bay - Texas
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_________________ Eat - Sleep - Hunt ! ! !
"It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end."
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Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:27 pm |
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Marque
MMT Member
Joined: Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:40 pm Posts: 6
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 Re: Propane Powered Surface Drive gear ratio
I build my SDMM with a 1.65:1 gear ratio. Not the best top speed but plenty of power and reasonable speeds. Top off with prop that works best.
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FRANKtheTAU
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:30 pm Posts: 1386 Location: West TN
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HOLY DEAD THREAD, BATMAN!!!
_________________ 40 Backwater SWOMP Lite / 1752 Alweld Mud
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flint87
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Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:21 pm Posts: 3214
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