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Dieselac
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Joined: Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:52 pm Posts: 10
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 Motor shuts off under load. *fixed*
So I just finished up my Mad mud motor. Took it out to test it out. Starts good, runs good but as soon as I drop the cav plate under the waterline the motor shuts off. I used a Honda gx200 6.5 HP. I have a 7X4 prop on it. It was just me (250lbs) in a 10 ft jon. Cav plate is set at 1/2" above the top of the prop per Mad plans. It seems to me that I need more torque and power or a smaller prop. Am I wrong?
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:45 pm |
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lastchance
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:56 pm Posts: 1646 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: Motor shuts off under load....need advice
What are you RPMs at idle out the water? And why is the cavitation plate bent down?
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:59 pm |
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Dieselac
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Joined: Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:52 pm Posts: 10
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 Re: Motor shuts off under load....need advice
I don't have a good answer why I bent down the back of the plate other than, the plans said to do so. Don't have a tach, but no matter where I have the throttle it does the same thing. I don't have a squeeze throttle setup yet so I am just using the oem lever that holds it position where you put it.
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:20 pm |
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brianb
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Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:02 pm Posts: 534 Location: louisiana
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 Re: Motor shuts off under load....need advice
So it kills like u shut it off or dies from bogging down
If it dies like u shut it off, check your oil level, the low oil sensor may be shutting it off when the motor tilts back to put prop in water
_________________ gtr35 gt 1854 / w gatorglide 12 ft 11hp longtail 14 ft 10 hp longtail Merc 225hp TR20
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:27 pm |
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Dieselac
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Joined: Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:52 pm Posts: 10
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 Re: Motor shuts off under load....need advice
Yea it dies from bogging down. Soon as it goes under load it shuts off. I will test it in the morning leaning it back with no water, but I highly doubt thats it, because it is very close to level when in the water.
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:36 pm |
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lastchance
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Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:56 pm Posts: 1646 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: Motor shuts off under load....need advice
Your plate should be level...... Once you test run you should have to bend it up where it rides right under the surface.
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:30 pm |
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brianb
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Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:02 pm Posts: 534 Location: louisiana
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 Re: Motor shuts off under load....need advice
The plate wouldn't cause the issue u are having tho, sounds like your governor is not speeding the motor up to compensate for the load
Does the motor wind up more by pushing on the governor linkage?
_________________ gtr35 gt 1854 / w gatorglide 12 ft 11hp longtail 14 ft 10 hp longtail Merc 225hp TR20
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:06 pm |
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lastchance
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Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:56 pm Posts: 1646 Location: Chauvin
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:37 pm |
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Dieselac
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Joined: Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:52 pm Posts: 10
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 Re: Motor shuts off under load....need advice
10-4 on the plate. I haven't removed the governor, which I know I probably need to. Yes when I pull on the linkage I can override the governor. Haven't tried that in the water though. The shaft spins freely. Not so much that if i remove it from the u joint it wil just continually spin with a flick of the wrist, but I would still call it effortless. Minimal resistance.
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:43 am |
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cut'em94
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Joined: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:16 pm Posts: 291 Location: Luling, LA
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 Re: Motor shuts off under load....need advice
i had this problem with my 16 hp longtail. i know this probably isnt the case with yours, but it turned out to be a bad coil. just another idea incase nothing else helps
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:24 am |
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Dieselac
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Joined: Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:52 pm Posts: 10
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So it turns out it was the low oil sensor after all. I unplugged it and it worked great. I just happens to be at the same point as the cav plate being fully submerged. How far back can you lean the motor before it becomes unsafe? I changed the oil and filled it to the max level. I think I'm fine, just curious.
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:02 pm |
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waterfowl1
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Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:02 pm Posts: 335 Location: hayward, wi
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 Re: Motor shuts off under load....need advice
I think 35 to 45 degrees
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:08 pm |
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brianb
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Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:02 pm Posts: 534 Location: louisiana
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 Re: Motor shuts off under load. *fixed*
 Ill send you a bill
_________________ gtr35 gt 1854 / w gatorglide 12 ft 11hp longtail 14 ft 10 hp longtail Merc 225hp TR20
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:21 pm |
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Dieselac
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Joined: Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:52 pm Posts: 10
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 Re: Motor shuts off under load. *fixed*
Haha.. Thanks bud
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Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:39 am |
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