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Hizzoner
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Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:10 am Posts: 527
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 Boat Prices
Just curious......it seems that boat prices went up a year ago or so when aluminum went up.
Correct me if I am wrong (River), but aluminum is back down quite a bit.
Will boat prices follow?
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Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:49 pm |
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mcnemar1982
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Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:03 pm Posts: 2216 Location: Walker, Louisiana
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 Re: Boat Prices
Oil is down also but stop buy at your local Autozone and look at the price for a quart. I doubt the prices are gonna go down much if any.
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Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:01 pm |
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Still Duckin
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Joined: Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:58 pm Posts: 31 Location: Northeast, TX
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 Re: Boat Prices
I doubt it also. Would be nice though since I am in the markert for a new rig.
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Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:19 pm |
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River
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:34 am Posts: 1092 Location: Unaffiliated, SETX group has caused me to renounce my Texas Citizenship
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 Re: Boat Prices
Aluminum is 50-60% less than what it was a year ago.
You do the math.
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:32 am |
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The Shafer
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:46 pm Posts: 1947 Location: Longview. TX
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 Re: Boat Prices
heres my opinion...
there is always someone that makes a chit ton of money when prices change.
It may not be the actual boat builder, but I'm sure there are several sales of the raw alumn. before it gets to the builder. And you can bet your ass that someone is pocketing the cash from the price change. And it wouldn't suprise me if they were in politics!
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:24 am |
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Mitschke
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:18 pm Posts: 971
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:43 am |
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LOWRY
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:18 am Posts: 296
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 Re: Boat Prices
May be that the suppliers have stock bought up at higher prices and need to recover their $$. (I don't know if the boat man. buy in bulk or as needed)So they sell at prices of stock they bought. Little brother bought some expanded metal the other day and got a 10x4 sheet cheaper than 8x5 because the metal place had bought the bigger sheets earlier at a cheaper price. I cannot afford to have a boat built right now but I was wonderig the same thing about prices and was considering buying a sheet or 2 of material and having one of the builders fab me something out of it later if it would save me some $$$$ 
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:02 pm |
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Mudgun
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:24 pm Posts: 746 Location: Here Be Rocks VA
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 Re: Boat Prices
When costs are rising, people tend to buy to stockpile. When they are falling, they tend to sell to avoid losing more later. I doubt many mud hull builders buy too far off market value. I would think the crappy economy and less available wholesale money in the finance world would drive boat prices down. Raw material and labor costs are a factor, but on items like boats and 4-wheelers, demand drives the sale price.
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:58 pm |
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Phathead
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Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:23 pm Posts: 225 Location: Arkansas
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 Re: Boat Prices
as long as we keep buying these things prices will hold steady. When we stop buying and start holding more of our money the builders will try to stimulate us with lower prices.
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:54 pm |
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stumpgrinder
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Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:04 pm Posts: 1438
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 Re: Boat Prices
^^^ he said stimulate. 
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:02 pm |
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POKER1
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 6243 Location: Bossier City
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:22 pm |
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Phathead
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Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:23 pm Posts: 225 Location: Arkansas
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 Re: Boat Prices
No Obabma fan here. But like I said, if we as consumers keep buying, the prices will stay where they are. There is no reason for builders to lower prices until they have to.
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:35 pm |
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Hizzoner
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Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:10 am Posts: 527
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:38 pm |
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The Shafer
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:46 pm Posts: 1947 Location: Longview. TX
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 Re: Boat Prices
btw..when's walmart going to start stocking mudmotors? 
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Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:09 am |
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POKER1
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 6243 Location: Bossier City
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_________________ 18x48 Charles Leonard / 36PD
"I do think there is a Squatch in these woods"!!!!!
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Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:37 am |
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Mitschke
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:18 pm Posts: 971
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 Re: Boat Prices
Maybe they will service your PD with this???? Just like half of the other worthless products they sell.... 
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Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:43 am |
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Phathead
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Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:23 pm Posts: 225 Location: Arkansas
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 Re: Boat Prices
Hizzoner, I agree with your theory of competition and market share expansion but it simply doesn't work as easily in our little sport. We are in such a specialized market with these rigs that a new builder has no real reason to charge less than what the others charge. Besides, show me a new builder, some of this competition. Heck, even someone out west with deep pockets can't even figure out a way to get an established boat company back up and going after a devastating loss without having enormous restart costs to recoup. Imagine what a first time business owner would be going through and what his product would have to cost just to make his bank note, assuming he could sell his boats. I still don't see prices changing despite lower aluminum prices until boat sales fall off. All the mud hull guys are booked solid right now.
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