Ok,,,here we go..

Obama Won!,,and the majority of his vote came from Minority, welfare recipients, Illegal aliens,,and Uneducated/Indoctrinated immature young students....Most of the above all,,,,~93% of the black vote!!!

Question #1-Which of the above are you????

Question #2-If none of the above, why do you stand with them and for what they represent????

Question #3-How does it make you feel, when you realize you voted with the poeple that hate you most????

Question #4-How does it feel when you voted with the poeple that make up 90% of the country's murder rate????

Question #5-What would Jesus do????

I dont want any quotes from MSNBC, I dont want no CBS quotes,,,I want genuine answers from you two fellers!!! Surely, you must have learned how to use your own words in colledge????

You gonna be waiting a long time. Neither of those two dumbasses will be able to answer all of those questions TRUTHFULLY!!!!!!!!!

Obama Won!,,and the majority of his vote came from Minority, welfare recipients, Illegal aliens,,and Uneducated/Indoctrinated immature young students....Most of the above all,,,,~93% of the black vote!!! Keep in mind, Obama got a higher percentage of the white female vote than Romney got. He also got a higher percentage of the young vote, and this includes young white college students. America stopped raising it's kids, and lets the multicultural public education take over, alone with the MTV and MSM

Question #1-Which of the above are you????

Question #2-If none of the above, why do you stand with them and for what they represent????

Question #3-How does it make you feel, when you realize you voted with the poeple that hate you most???? Most liberals hate America. They are instructed to hate America, to believe the founding fathers were not christians, to have a disdain for our constitution, and to generally hate anything that is white, is judeo christian, and has testicles. It is the way of multiculturalism

Question #4-How does it feel when you voted with the poeple that make up 90% of the country's murder rate???? Not exactly sure who you are speaking of here, but if it is blacks then your percentage is to high. Black Americans make up 12.5% of the population, but commit just under 50% of the nations murders. If we as a nation could bring the black murder rate down to what the white murder rate is, then we would drop overall murder rate of the nation by 40%. Libs keep hush on all of this, because they are fine with blacks murdering other blacks. Remember, Margret Sanger is a hero to the liberals (founder of planned parenthood. It was her idea to use abortion and eugentics to get rid of the black population.

Question #5-What would Jesus do????

Ok,,my 90% came from counties that voted majority Obama. Those counties make up 90% of the nations murder rate!! haha,,i mispoke...but everyone gets the point i believe...

Howerve,,,Ranger, thanks you cleared up what Dguidry, and Idacraw were afraid to answer!

To Summarize-Dguidry and Idacraw=Thinks like young female minorities, that were subjects of "bad parenting" and we all know they Drool over MSM! They also hate america and what its stood for in the past, and have "a better" direction for us all. This direction is socialism, dictatorship..etc...They also hate christianity, and hate anyone who has beliefs other then what they think you should beleive!!!!! Nuff said!!!!!

Boy,,im glad you posted that...

It clearly shows that the working states, and working people voted for Romney,,,or anyone of them with a half a brain did..

But the unemployed,,,,and im starting to believe these are voluntarily unemployed wellfare leaches voted Obama...

At least you admitted it by posting this,,,we have been telling you this for a long time!!!!! We have reached the "tipping point"! Less people working than people on welfare....SCARY!!

Now,,,watch them come after your 401k,,,its the only viable option or the quick fix that OBAMA needs....


D,,i asked for "your answers"!!! not what some column wrote...

Chauvin - interesting posts, I appreciate your take on the issues


One thing I would caution you against. I know Dean Guidry and Idacraw both argue from a liberal standpoint, but I try not to lump them together. I have debated both on here, and I would say that they both argue from a very different standpoint and view things differently.

I can not speak for either one, but Dguidry is more old school democrat in his arguments. I do believe that there are democrats that argue for liberal causes with a clear concience. they do care about the poor, healthcare for folks that need it, taking care of the environment. I just believe they have picked a flawed system to get to their goal, and I do not think they realize the failure of socialism.

Idacraw is more hard core atheist/Communist. Dguidry may be agnostic (does not believe in God), but I do not see him attacking others who do believe. Idacraw argues from a stand point of almost being militant in wanting to remove Christianity. You will also notice that while he claims to hate religion, on another thread, he was quick to come to the defense of Islam. That is a clear sign to me of a hard line Anti American view. The extreme far left in this nation have the same view. They will quickly defend Islam, knowing that it is where the majority of the worlds terrorism comes from, knowing that Islam is oppressive to women, does honor killings, stifles education..... The reason hard core libs will defend Islam, is they know Islam is an enemy to the American way of life, and the enemy of their enemy becomes their friend. Idacraw will give some lame half crap nonsense about terrorism from Christians that blow up abortion clinics, or try to compare to the evils that the Roman Catholic Government did centuries ago. While there have been an elite few abortion clinic bombings, they are rare, were never condoned by any main line Christian denomination, and they are a tiny fraction when compared to the violence done by Islam on a world stage. In reality, when is the last time you read about a Baptist honor killing, a Methodist bus bombing, a Pentecostal beheading of a woman.....

Just my opinion, but debate them one at a time, and try not to lump them together. they are very different animals. I do not speak for either one of them, but there is a long history on here of what they have wrote, and it is pretty easy to explicate what they mean and say.

oops, double post.

Ranger,,,Thanks for enlightening me! I do to see that now! Dguidry does remind me of a good ole boy who is stuck in his ways!! However,,Idacraw is another story,,,,When speaking to him i feel the hate,,,i feel resentment,,,i feel his want to change me and the way i think and my way of life!!!

That may be why i dont like him,,,,I like ole Dean so far! Unless he Threatens to call the Corps of Engineers on me i dont see that changing! But for idacraw,,,,i dont see me and him standing in the same room for very long!

Ranger, you are a fucking idiot and a coward. If you said some bullshit like that to my face I would punch you in the mouth. Anti American? The vast majority of the "patriots" on this site never served in the military, but they have plenty of excuses for why they couldn't. The truth is like most, they are cowards, afraid to put their life on the line for the country they claim to love so much. I wonder how many of the idiots on this site signed a petition to secede from the union? Who is the real anti American? You have lost what little respect I had for you, it is clear that you are no better than the rest of the hypocritical cowards on this site.

But you are right on one point, Christianity as a whole is no better than Islam. And you're right I consider your fanatical religious beliefs equal with that of a jihadist. I don't support Muslims, I just think that Christians are no better, it's funny how quick you are to blame Catholics for the atrocities done in the name of your god. Christianity is as much a religion of terror and oppression as Islam, maybe more so because Christians do it under the radar instead of in the open. It wasn't so long ago that women were considered less than a man in this country, and guess where that idea came from, your ignorant bible written by men for fools.

I also like how asking you to prove your claims makes me militant. Now your acting like a butt hurt little girl because you couldn't provide any proof of your imaginary friend and couldn't intelligently counter my points without quoting scripture. The difference between dguidry and me is that I can back up the arguments I make and you and tchavin are left with your dick in your hand.

Idacraw What are going to say at the END if you are wrong. Just what if you are.

Idacraw - Ha, I love internet tough guys.

Idacraw comment - ”I have pointed out, the cast majority of Muslims are peaceful people just like christians, but there are several fringe crazies that give their religion a bad name, just like there are fringe crazies the believe in christianity that also engage in terrorist”

Once again, we see you jumping to defend the Muslim, and attempting to portray the “Christians” as the ones who on equal footing engage in terrorism. In U.S history, there have been six Abortion clinic murders. Six total. Nadal Hassan, the Muslim Army officer killed 13 American soldiers and wounded 29 more, all the while shouting “alahu Akbar”, and that is just one event. Throw in the 9-11 attacks, and the suicide bombings around the world, with the other bombings, assassinations, there is no comparison. Only a fool would think they could compare Christianity and Islam in relation to terror. There is no comparison.


Idacraw Comment – “I do not care for Obama or his administration and I am not happy he was re-elected, but the other choice was equally bad IMO” Once again, when give the choice between a middle of the road conservative, or a full blown anti-American socialist, you went with socialist. Let us not forget, Obama declared his run for his senate seat in the house of a known terrorist who blew up bombs in our subways, in an effort to spur a communist revolution that would murder millions of American capitalists

Your comment "You have lost what little respect I had for you" - Believe me, I am not looking for your respect, nor have i ever. I could care less if you have served. Nadal Hassan served also, and he like you hated America, and everything America stands for.

More of your comments

“ Don't forget that for the most part the scientist that create vaccines and new medical technology are democrats”

“regardless of what you think, your religion is just a different flavor of islam”

When we read your posts, we see your disdain for our constitution, your quick defense of socialism and everything that is Obama, your discrediting of the founding fathers. Read what you have wrote, you are an anti American communist.

Well that's simple tchavin, I didn't answer because I didn't support him.

Idacraw will tell you that he did not support Obama, but go back and read the last six or so threads, and see how quick he is to jump in and defend Obama. Find one place where he ever supported or defend anything conservative.

Did the Marine Corps kick you out?

I was talking about God not your messiah Obama

You just keep showing how ignorant you are ranger, can't keep up in a real discussion, now you resort to calling me anti American and questioning my military service. You are some piece of work, shows your true character.

Sounds to me like ranger got u pegged pretty good

Yep,,,hit that right in the bullseye at bout 500yrds!!! Not really though,,,idacraw made it clear where he stands and who he stands with!!

For some crazy reason,,,he reminds me of that ole boy that lived with the Grizzlies!!! He loved them Bears!!! He slept and ate wit dem' Bears!!! He even swam wit dem' Bears!!!

Then they ate him!!!!

Idacraw is the ignorant Grizzly man,,,,the Left/Socialist/Communist Obama type are the Bears!!!!

Idacraw “Anti American” is not so much a name as it is a definition of what and how you write.

in the famous words of Charlie Daniels, "I betchya you even got a commie flag. Tacked up on the wall inside of your garage"

Idacraw - buy hey, I still love you and pray for you. I hope you one day see the light.

I see more why Christianity is so popular in the south, you need to be spoon fed everything you know in life, it is amazing how simple minded some of you are.. Maybe the rest of the country will get lucky and Obama will allow you to secede, we would be better for it.

Maybe so Idacraw,,,

I think it was Ranger who posted to divide the country! Might have not been him but i thought it was. The liberals take your side, with your wind and solar power and prius's and leave.....

I think you know what would happen! That 70's hippies peace and love shit wont work when the government checks stop going out and the hoodlams and goons come for you and your families food!!

Why do you think they call it Gods Country everthing down here you love is here hunting and fishing and hot women case closed devil child

Do the windmills scare you? Only an idiot would think we should continue to rely on fossil fuels, case in point.

Idacraw “Anti American” is not so much a name as it is a definition of what and how you write.

in the famous words of Charlie Daniels, "I betchya you even got a commie flag. Tacked up on the wall inside of your garage"

He's anti everything. He argues about everything. He thinks his way is the only way.

Try reading something other than Fox news, you might learn something. Wind energy could produce way more energy than needed, but guess who lobbies against it?

Idacraw comment - "Do the windmills scare you"

No, it is actually stupid liberal ideas that scare us. Currently, we can not pull up to the Obama station, and fill up on rainbow power, but we can fill up on diesel or gasoline, and power our trucks and mud boats.

Interesting that you bring up windmills. Not only has it proved not real sporty at giving us power, libs seem to have a history of not actually wanting the windmill farms, in that they kill birds, and ugly up the sky line. http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/ ... 3830.shtml Libs talk a good story, but Old Ted Kennedy even voted against windmills.

When we look at solar power, we see how Obama sent billions of our tax dollars to Solyndra, and it was pissed away.

When we do have a chance to get some real energy via the canadian pipe line, Obama and his peeps will not have anything to do with it.

Keep it real.

he still getting a little tingle down his leg like his mentor chris matthews

The great thing about you guys is the entertainment you provide. We are sitting here at our government funded desk jobs having a great time, it like watching monkeys fling their own poop at the zoo!

Keep it real? You mean like depending on fossil fuels that were created in only 6000 years? Good must be real if he could foresee us needing so much oil that he just built huge stockpiles of it underground and hoped we would find it. What a clown.