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No one can argue with this anymore. I think the bible has it right in that the world was created in a very short time, but 7 days has got to be only a metaphor for it. Certainly, the date of creation stated in the bible is not literal at 2000 years. You can still believe that God created the universe but you have to adjust your idea of when that was, that is all.

http://news.yahoo.com/universe-ages-80m ... 23707.html

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Well, that was obviously a waste of $900 million.

Of course, if I spent $900 million on a telescope, I would want to try and prove I got my money's worth, too.

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did you even read the article? or did you just see an article about a theory on the creation of our universe and want to stur the pot? within the article it states that this is just a theory of how the universe might have been created after a big bank, shaped by a mathematical theory of inflation. the scientist even say that they still dont know what happened after the inflation. and where do you get off questioning time frame of GOD? 7 days to him could be a split second, a year, or 100 years. Man created the idea of keeping time. the scientist within this study even say that you will get different answers from different theorist on the same question, this is all a theory. i see why no one likes you. dont come at people with this "you cant argue this anymore" and "you can still believe in what you want but you have to change it to fit what my article says" attitude. Childish


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Well said, Aggie.


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Dguildry, I've read your first post several times and maybe I'm reading it wrong but are you stating that the bible says the universe was created 2000 years ago?

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Shafer, it is not "expressly" written in the bible that the earth is 6000 years old. In 1650 a protestant Bishop named James Ussher published a chronological time line of the bible. By starting at the end of the bible and working forward, he added up all the life spans of everyone who was given an age. All the so and so begot so and so and he lived for 900 years etc. Using this method he concluded that the day of Adam's creation was October 23, 4004 BC.

That would make the earth 6009 years old this October. This is a widely accepted time line and has been recalculated several times and the age is correct according the stories of the bible. You could ask ranger for more details, he is one that believes the earth was literally created 6000 years ago.

Mind you this is completely ridiculous, even ignoring the fossil record, the Sumerians have a written record going back to almost 10,000 years and a verbal record of much longer.


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I grew up in church and still continue to go to this day. I do believe in God and believe that He created the earth as accounted for in the bible. I also believe that if God wanted me to know how old the earth was he would have plainly put it in the bible for me to read.

With that being said it is very apparent that yourself (idacraw) and our friend dguidry do not believe in any of the above. That's fine with me. Believe what you want to just like I believe what I want to. With that being said you will never find me posting something about my religion just to get people worked up who do not believe like I do.

Topics like this are obviously posted with the intent of stirring up shit.

With that being said Mr. Guidry.....give it a rest and try to get along with people.

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By the way..... I really don't give a shit how old the earth is. It doesn't effect how I or my family live our lives. :D

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I agree with the shafer , as far as my Christianity I lean more old testament , eye for an eye , tooth for a tooth . I'd turn my other check , but I learned better.

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I was just posting the link for y'all to judge for yourselves. I'm not on any mission to convert anyone either way. These discoveries are happening at an extraordinary rate these days. We are living in a great age of scientific discovery and I feel so fortunate to be here. I was particularly fascinated be an article I read the other day that talked about now being able to recreate and bring to life prehistoric animals. Some zoo is going to pay millions to recreate a mastodon. Can you imagine what kind of draw that would be for a zoo?

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I think I will go ahead and stick with the Bible version, and I still believe God did it in 6 days, and rested on the last

Cool thing, we have that 1st Amendment. The government does not give me the right to worship how i please, the founding fathers realize that I already have that right, and decided it was the job of the government to protect that right. Obama has a bad taste in his mouth over that one, and said as much when he signed the NDAA.

It sure is amazing how Bible prophecy is coming to fruition as we speak.

"as in the days of Noah" are upon us.

I see that now 58% of Americans are supporting sodomite marriage. Our economy is coming apart at the seams, and our churches are floating along merrily, jamming out to their Sunday morning rock concerts.

Fear not, the egg heads that wrote this study will stand before God, and give an account for their lives, just like the rest of us.

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At least mastadons are herbivors if one of their furry elephants gets away it wont be eating people unless they add a little to much of this or not enough of that before they push the magic button. I hope what ever they create tears that museum apart and stomps evry one of those idiots half to death before they have to kill it jurassic park style.

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Just remember and dont ever forget one fact about God and the Bible...

All that is written is TRUE!!! However,,,all that is True is not WRITTEN!!!


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we need a theory forum

It would keep idacraw busy for a long time.

he could post a new one every few days, as that is about how often the evolutionst come up with new ones.

Us Christians have been sticking to that old Creation story for the last 6000 years.

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How many evolutionists does it take to change a light bulb?

Only one, but it takes millions of years.

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That's right ranger, you believe it because its true and its true because you believe it, evidence be damned.


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Somebody found a fossil of a snake with legs. Could it be the ancestor of lawyers?

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there is no theory of evolution, just a list of animals chuck norris decided not to kill.

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Idacraw

I have mutated into actually likeing you.

I missed not having you and your comments on here for a while. You are kind of like a fungus that just sorts of grows on a parson.

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Idacraw.


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I have an atheist friend and every time he tells a story and we call BS on it, he swears to God! :lol:


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One day a animal researcher noticed that a gorilla was reading two books. One was the Bible and the other was Darwin’s The Origin of Species. He was surprised and asked the ape, “Why are you reading both those books”?
“Well,” said the gorilla, “I just wanted to know if I was my brother’s keeper or my keeper’s brother.”

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One day a group of Darwinian scientists had a meeting and decided that man had come such a long way that he no longer needed God. So they picked one Darwinian to go and tell Him that they were done with Him.

The Darwinian walked up to God and said, “God, we’ve decided that we no longer need you. We’re to the point that we can clone people and do many miraculous things on our own.”

God listened very patiently and kindly to the man. After the Darwinian was done talking, God said, “Very well, how about this? Let’s say we have a man-making contest.” To which the Darwinian happily agreed.

God added, “Now, we’re going to do this just like I did back in the old days with Adam.”

The Darwinian said, “Sure, no problem” and bent down and grabbed himself a handful of dirt.

God looked at him and said, “No, no, no. You go get your own dirt!!!!”

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