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fredthewelder
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:52 am Posts: 56 Location: MIchigan
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 Need advice about long tail purchase
Hi every one need some advice here
Building a new plate boat this summer going run a long tail
My question is I'm looking at a back water 35 ss model Or a go devil 35 long tail I have experience with long tails but been out of the loupe for a few years So need the Pros and cons of these newer mud motors I want to buy the best strongest and one that will last Thank you for your advice
_________________ Fred the Welder Building them one at a time
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wm
MMT F.E.
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:48 pm Posts: 782 Location: Eau Claire Wi
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 Re: Need advice about long tail purchase
id go back water inc myself
_________________ 1648 alumacraft with a 35 backwaterinc
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FRANKtheTAU
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:30 pm Posts: 1386 Location: West TN
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 Re: Need advice about long tail purchase
Best and strongest? Definitely Back water.
_________________ 40 Backwater SWOMP Lite / 1752 Alweld Mud
6.5 Backwater SWOMP Lite / 1440 PolarKraft
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Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:39 am |
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jawshunting
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Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:00 am Posts: 27
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 Re: Need advice about long tail purchase
Since you are alot closer to Back Water than I am (Texas), I would take a hard look at them. I have never owned one, but only read good things about them. I wanted to buy one, but there was too many unanswered questions. Such as, who would work on a warranty issue (no dealer or rep. anywhere near me). Can't afford to ship it back and forth everytime there is an issue. Next, they have been in business about four years. How does their product hold up over the long haul. They do not make a galvanized frame and where I hunt (brackish) I need that. Even after all that, I was still intrigued by the looks, like its has a beefier frame and may last longer than the others? But my main hang up, I could not look at one in person. I only had pictures on the internet. The company needs more reps and dealers down south (probably easier said, than done). Maybe they have enough business up north and are not concerned. I spoke with them on the phone, they seem nice and I like the price, but because of the above mentioned hang ups I went with Go Devil. They have Outstanding customer service and make a good product. If anyone with BackWater is reading this, ship me a unit and I would be happy to pimp it for you once I run the dog out of it and know it holds up.  Just my three cents.
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FRANKtheTAU
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:30 pm Posts: 1386 Location: West TN
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 Re: Need advice about long tail purchase
For the longest time, the only mud motors that anyone here in Tennessee had were Go-Devil longtails. I've ran several (a dozen) longtails from GD. They are a product that has been around forever and that do what most people need them to do. Customer Service is fine so you can't fault them there. Still, this time last year when I was in the market for a new motor I kept looking at the motor from Back water. I loved the design and the passion and commitment that Arlon, Jake, and Larry had about their product. I had never actually put my hands on one but I decided to pull the trigger on one anyway. I couldn't be happier with my decision. These motors are truly in a whole other class when compared to other longtails.
These motors are a mile or two per hour faster than a GD with the same horsepower, same boat, same driver, etc. That's due to the setback transom mount and surface tracer cavitation plate. The motor is amazingly smooth running. No crazy excess vibration or anything that I've experienced on GDLTs. The sealed bearing system is great. If you're used to a GD and having to keep a grease gun in the boat and grease everything every time you put the boat in the water, you can forget that. Literally this bearing system needs only one or two pumps or grease every 25 hours. The way they're designed, the bearing can actually be ran with zero grease in the driveshaft tube. The real only purpose of the grease is to prevent driveshaft slap. The housing that contains the bearings and seals doesn't constantly leak grease and its designed to keep fishing line or anything else from working its way up into your lower seals and causing seal failure. You couldn't get sand, dirt, or anything else into the lower seal assembly even if you wanted to.
The guys at Back water have done their homework and are no stranger to the longtail game. Arlon built the first Beavertail motor and all of the Harley powered Predator longtails. Last time I talked to them in February they were about to sell their 1,000th motor. I have no doubt that this is a company that is here to stay. People who have always ran a GD are used to them and they figure that is just how a longtail is supposed to be: vibrating, greasy, difficult to drive, simple machines. I even thought that and I was fine with it. All because I didn't know any better. I say anyone who is in the market for a new longtail mud motor would be doing themselves a great injustice to not try out one of the motors from Back water.
_________________ 40 Backwater SWOMP Lite / 1752 Alweld Mud
6.5 Backwater SWOMP Lite / 1440 PolarKraft
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fredthewelder
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:52 am Posts: 56 Location: MIchigan
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 Re: Need advice about long tail purchase
Yes I heard all the same things I am leaning heavily toward a new back water ss Thanks for the input
_________________ Fred the Welder Building them one at a time
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Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:48 pm |
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Buzz Killington
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:33 pm Posts: 2455
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 Re: Need advice about long tail purchase
No contest. Backwaterinc.com makes the new cool foe the LT world. Seen 2 in action now and both have impressed me. I ran 2 x GoDevil - a 9hp and a 20hp
The BW are more robust and run very smooth.
_________________ Support your troops - they support you
B. MacDonald
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Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:37 pm |
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power731
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:06 pm Posts: 300
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 Re: Need advice about long tail purchase
I have the SS SWOMP and it is a great machine. I have ran them all and this is the Cadillac of longtails. If you are near west Tn. I will let run mine.
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Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:48 pm |
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power731
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Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:06 pm Posts: 300
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 Re: Need advice about long tail purchase
WHOOPS just saw the Michigan, Guess we are little far.
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Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:49 pm |
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Basher 183
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Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:45 am Posts: 49
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 Re: Need advice about long tail purchase
Back H2O. I have the 35SS and it is beast. I picked mine up at their shop and they were great to deal with. They even supplied refreshments while we got it mounted.
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