I currently have a scav enger back h2o motor and it's a POS! I'm looking to get a backH2o INC. frame and using my honda 660 motor on it. What's y'all's thoughts about the backH2o frames?

They are ok check out mayhemmudmotors.com they have frame kits.


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No problem they are just built with tubing nothing special. They look ok is what I meant.


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I looked at the website and there wasn't much there.. What makes them so great?

They build a nice frame at a good price text them at the number on their site and they can get you pics of the new frame.


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to me it seems like a waste of space. and it looks like it would get in the way alout

Everything ive heard on the backwaters is great.

I'm not knocking backwaters in fact I have nothing bad to say about them. I am not a Mayhem owner or dealer but I do have one being built. I did a lot of research on long tails including backwater but chose Mayhem because of the quality in the frame and shaft/bearing design.


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From the looks of mayhem's website and lack of pictures they have a lot to hide.....

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They can get pics of hats and sweatshirts up by no pics of the motors.

Are you serious right now?

I thinks they used that maul to bent that bar that goes to the cav plate. Yeah, that looks much better than BW cave plate

I don't think their prop shaft is long enough. They should add 4"

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Someone drop the ban hammer on Mayhem73. Anyone who'd recommend that longtail, much less recommend it over a Back Water or even a Go-Devil must have a screw loose.

I guess it would be alright as long as you never ran grass, or stumps, or rocks, or mud, or shallow water.

They need to do some serious R&D on that thing.

I'm no engineer, but damn, don't they know putting that bend in that piece decreases the lateral strength of the cavitation plate pushing against it? I've never in my life seen a crooked dick gusset.

Well I went and ordered a swomp SS model. I hope it's as good as everyone says it is!

Start of my new longtail.


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^^^^^^^Total Mayhem Brother!!!!!!

It's coincidence man. I have no affiliation with them they are a local builder.


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A few more pics of my new frame from Mayhem Mud Motors.


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What's it weigh?

Haven't checked weight on it we will after powder coat and we mount the 35 Cdi on it.


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Guessing right about 140 lbs without motor.


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Trolling for what?


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